Trophy Handling Problems (tracking?)

[jesus]

Basically I had my tracking done before I went to the 'ring after having my ball joints replaced and newly refurbished dampers fitted.

On the way down to the 'ring a couple of days later, I noticed that the steering seemed overly sensitive on the motorway, as in... if I just tapped the steering wheel ever so slightly to one side, I would be changing lanes. I had to keep correcting it to say in a straight line.

Since then, it seems to have gotten worse. On normal main roads, if there are bumps or even cats eyes, the wheels seem to want to follow the grooves in the road and send my steering wheel loopy! If I drive down a particularly road my steering wheel is going in all directions as the wheels follow the bumps in the road.

I know it shouldn't be like this as none of my other cars have done that, and neither did the Trophy before I had the tracking done.

Has anyone got any ideas? Could the tracking need doing again? It's had new track rods + ends last year, new ball joints this year and the dampers have just been refurbished with new springs.

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

Has it been poly bushed?

 

[Adam G]

Have you checked your tyre pressures? Worth checking the obvious and cheapest solution first.

 

[Breamy]

How much camber do you have on the front ?

 

[jesus]

Has it been poly bushed?

Nope.

Have you checked your tyre pressures? Worth checking the obvious and cheapest solution first.

I've checked them not too long ago, however I'll go and have another look when I get the chance and see if it makes a difference.

How much camber do you have on the front ?

A standard amount, I don't have any camber bolts or anything fitted.

 

[TimR26]

I'd get the tracking checked and ask them to check for any play in steering, track rods etc.

 

[Bendunn]

I fitted some camber bolts to mine yesterday and it now does this, haven't had a chance to get it tracked yet, would that be why?

 

[sbridgey]

I fitted some camber bolts to mine yesterday and it now does this, haven't had a chance to get it tracked yet, would that be why?

yes, you will have huge toe out. get it set to 5 mins out each side.

 

[3i_gaz]

yes, you will have huge toe out. get it set to 5 mins out each side.

I took a customers car for a hunter set up and it was set to 5 minutes toe out and it feels so positive!

 

[jesus]

So is 5mins toe out the recommended setting? Or standard?

 

[bozothenutter]

I thought 12 mins out was standard?

 

[KevF182]

I thought 12 mins out was standard?

yep, but often quoted as 6 mins per wheel.

To the OP, how worn are your tyres?

 

[jesus]

Not very, I'd say about half worn. They weren't fitted long ago.

 

[Bendunn]

Just for lol's had my tracking sorted tonight, lets just say it was awful its still not perfect but ive been driving around with this minus the camber for 6 months, FAIL!
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r538/Benjamindunn4046/IMG_0756.jpg

 

[montana]

Have you checked your tyre pressures? Worth checking the obvious and cheapest solution first.

I would second this, out of all the cars i have owned RS Clios seem the most sensitive to any kind of pressure drop in the tyres & it is really noticeable through the steering

 

[KevF182]

Just for lol's had my tracking sorted tonight, lets just say it was awful its still not perfect but ive been driving around with this minus the camber for 6 months, FAIL!
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r538/Benjamindunn4046/IMG_0756.jpg

That's what happens when you fit camber bolts and haven't adjusted the tracking? Massive toe-in is the result I had!

 

[DanClio]

Thats not the worst I've seen!

@ Jesus, best bet as has been said is get your tracking checked. It sounds likes your car is running too much toe out. If you are doing alot of bumpy B road routes personally I would say set it to slightly less than 5mins in each side. Maybe even try parallel. If you werent so far away I could sort your tracking for you and could find a balance your happy with! Toe is very much a personal preference thing. Trophy's are set for a little bit of negative toe to make them a bit sharper changing direction but grip levels and geo dont change by toeing in a little.

 

[jesus]

Cheers Dan, very helpful. What's the standard setting for Trophys?

I mainly drive it to work and back and do some motorway miles so just want it to feel more sturdy. I do like a good blast now and again so want to retain as much handling as possible too.

 

[leeroybrown]

I've got 2 degress neg camber on mine Jesus Christ Superstar, However I am running full MF spings and dampers all round.

 

[Bendunn]

Yes I had huge toe in also, I'm going for 2 degrees negative camber and some negative toe, what's the standard toe setting on trophys ?

 

[jesus]

I've got 2 degress neg camber on mine Jesus Christ Superstar, However I am running full MF spings and dampers all round.

I've got a set of Sportlines too

 

[leeroybrown]

I've got a set of Sportlines too

Wash your mouth out lol

Don't let Sir Dave hear you say that, he will make you eat your own b****cks lol