turbo kits

[chrissy_306]

hiya can anyone help me?
i am looking for a turbo kit for my clio 172 and can only find them on k-tec racing web site, £6000 seems expensive... anyone no were else i can look???

thanks for yor help

 

[Steve2004]

hiya can anyone help me?
i am looking for a turbo kit for my clio 172 and can only find them on k-tec racing web site, £6000 seems expensive... anyone no were else i can look???

thanks for yor help

Any turbo conversion is going to be pricey as you also need major engine work, or else the engine won't take a turbo, it'll just go BOOOOM. Running a turbo on a standard RS clio engine won't be reliable in the slightest.

The turbo kit, major engine strengthening and labour all add up, hence the high price.

 

[alexbleubolt]

buy a different car

 

[jbCUP]

good news fella, there's a new turbo kit (low pressure) from holland (i think) and its about £2700. They were discussed on here recently. I think fred said something about testing them at the ring soon...

 

[Fred@BTM]

yup we're meeting up with them at the ring

 

[White16valver]

Get yozza into it.

If he can't break it then I think it will be reliable lol

 

[Fred@BTM]

you can read my mind!

 

[Michael172]

te turbo kits reliable then ? i mean do yozza's kit blow up the engine ?

 

[White16valver]

LOL

Nooooo, I meant that yozza drives like he stole it and his hair's on fire - therefore if it's yozza-proof, it should be normal-person-proof

 

[Fred@BTM]

note this is NOT our kit, we do not sell it (yet)

we're simply meeting up with the guys to see what the kit is like

 

[TeZ]

Hes a big Women.

 

[Batman]

i think if its worth getting a small boost conversion then its worth going for a full conversion with strengthened components if you have the cash that is

 

[Dubai182]

Should be interesting to hear the reports Fred...

Being half the price should make a great buy if it's as good as it looks...

 

[Teleturbie]

Here's the link;

http://www.mbcarperformance.nl/cata...d6215&osCsid=9c1bb1831eea42ae273b431fcf0dfc77

Should be looking at 240+ bhp on a 182 with a decat/non-restrictive exhaust I was told. But they are still testing with this particular setup.

Didn't know the gearbox and internals of the engine could cope with such an increase in power/torque , but they seem to prove otherwise.

 

[Batman]

isnt that low boost running 7 psi im sure k-tecs stage one runs 9 psi?

and thats without uprating any internals

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

isnt that low boost running 7 psi im sure k-tecs stage one runs 9 psi?

and thats without uprating any internals

I thought I read people running 12psi.

 

[Teleturbie]

Yes, that setup is 7psi (0,5 bar) from 2000rpm on. Should be a nice kit for the money, the package also contains a Forge open dumpvalve , tssshhh..

 

[Batman]

i think stage one is 9 psi and if you go for forged rods they run around 12 psi?

maybe one of the turbo owners could clarify it?

 

[ChrisR]

i think if its worth getting a small boost conversion then its worth going for a full conversion with strengthened components if you have the cash that is

lol of course if you have the cash it's worth uprating the internals, but when this kit costs circa 2.5k and the kits with uprated internals are at least double that it's a whole lot more

Personally if a kit on a standard engine (i.e. no cams) could bring it up to 210-220 bhp and not massivly effect the day to day running it'd be a good buy. I know it's not as 'traditional' as keeping the engine N/A with itbs, but it'll be cheaper.

 

[Batman]

i think if its worth getting a small boost conversion then its worth going for a full conversion with strengthened components if you have the cash that is

lol of course if you have the cash it's worth uprating the internals, but when this kit costs circa 2.5k and the kits with uprated internals are at least double that it's a whole lot more

Personally if a kit on a standard engine (i.e. no cams) could bring it up to 210-220 bhp and not massivly effect the day to day running it'd be a good buy. I know it's not as 'traditional' as keeping the engine N/A with itbs, but it'll be cheaper.

i totally understand that hence once its all tested and their happy to sell it will be a good buy getting a good gain for the money and a cool sound when you change gear, im actually not sure what power the standard conrods can take as i recall it being pretty high anyways,

torque levels from the low boost conversion seem really good to but its the gearbox that has to take it on a standard clutch

 

[ChrisR]

The gearbox will be the weak link, but only if you drive like an idiot I reckon. Be a bit careful with it all and it should be fine.

 

[LegoHead]

My gearbox has been used for 15k miles now since the conversion. Not sure what last owner drove like, but I treat it gently. Might get a few more miles out of it.

 

[Big Bob]

My gearbox has been used for 15k miles now since the conversion. Not sure what last owner drove like, but I treat it gently. Might get a few more miles out of it.

exactly all these tunning companies aren't using new uprated gearboxes and ther running big power hikes so i don see why you need a new gearbox to cope with 7 psi of boost

 

[olligunner]

geting a turbo conversion will put the biggest smile on your face you've ever worn, mines got a k-tec stage 2 conversion and is pushing out 309 bhp.......... as lego head would i'm sure agree the're awesome!

 

[LegoHead]

My gearbox has been used for 15k miles now since the conversion. Not sure what last owner drove like, but I treat it gently. Might get a few more miles out of it.

exactly all these tunning companies aren't using new uprated gearboxes and ther running big power hikes so i don see why you need a new gearbox to cope with 7 psi of boost

I have 12.5 now and mine is still going ok, whines a bit in reverse, but bites hard and now i have changed the oil down changes slide in perfectly.

Always blip the throttle, up and down....

 

[edde]

Should be looking at 240+ bhp on a 182 with a decat/non-restrictive exhaust I was told. But they are still testing with this particular setup.

You'll hit the det limit of the fuel the exhaust isn't a problem realy just up the boost the boost cannot be upped though since the fuel will det you can fiddle for a bit with mapping/fuel used/water injectro etc but you cannot get away with it forever.

i think if its worth getting a small boost conversion then its worth going for a full conversion with strengthened components if you have the cash that is

Exactly.

 

[Batman]

its like i've learnt over the past year,
if the jobs worth doing then do it right

 

[Fred@BTM]

but an engine doesn't NEED low comp bits and bobs

there's plenty of quite high comp ratio turbo engines out there

 

[Big Bob]

what would high comp pistons and low boost conversion be like

would it work or send me to A&E with buns and an insuranced claim for a burnt out clio

 

[Batman]

what would high comp pistons and low boost conversion be like

would it work or send me to A&E with buns and an insuranced claim for a burnt out clio

only time will tell

 

[Fred@BTM]

its all down to mapping

 

[Big Bob]

its all down to mapping

so it could work then

 

[Fred@BTM]

yes, as i say there's plenty of oe manufactuer engines out there running quite high comp ratio turbo engines

 

[stevo172-RWD]

i think if its worth getting a small boost conversion then its worth going for a full conversion with strengthened components if you have the cash that is

uprated conrods can be had for £450 and forged pistons can be had for £500!
what would you call low boost?im running 9psi 250bhp

 

[Big Bob]

i think if its worth getting a small boost conversion then its worth going for a full conversion with strengthened components if you have the cash that is

uprated conrods can be had for £450 and forged pistons can be had for £500!
what would you call low boost?im running 9psi 250bhp

thats what im after but running into itb's and cams

 

[stevo172-RWD]

exactly all these tunning companies aren't using new uprated gearboxes and ther running big power hikes so i don see why you need a new gearbox to cope with 7 psi of boost

I have 12.5 now and mine is still going ok, whines a bit in reverse, but bites hard and now i have changed the oil down changes slide in perfectly.

Always blip the throttle, up and down....

just out of interest how much bhp does it see for 12.5psi?
mines rrd at 9psi 250bhp

 

[Batman]

im sure k-tec run 12psi and revised ecu map, im sure they could put the psi up and the engine and turbo would handle around 400bhp its just the gearbox

 

[franx]

Here's the link;

http://www.mbcarperformance.nl/cata...d6215&osCsid=9c1bb1831eea42ae273b431fcf0dfc77

Should be looking at 240+ bhp on a 182 with a decat/non-restrictive exhaust I was told. But they are still testing with this particular setup.

Didn't know the gearbox and internals of the engine could cope with such an increase in power/torque , but they seem to prove otherwise.

I'm wondering about the gearbox too.. They're most confident in it's reliability. Soon it's going to have a good thrash-test at the Ring, giving it a proper beating . If they're satisfied i'm thinking of putting myself on the list. A couple op people have already ordered a set

 

[Fred@BTM]

i met them at the ring yesterday, really nice guy, he's still doing testing and datalogging at the moment

 

[matty J]

hmm really interested in this looking forward to the out come of the testing