Tyre Stretching

[VeinAST]

Just been through Google and accidentally stumbled upon this:

http://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=24937

I know there've been a few debates about the legality of it amongst us but on Page 2 it clears up that wheels can't protrude more than 30cm out of the edge of the car.

The police forum does seem a little bias towards any involvement in car modification and from a post it seems that they mainly know of the chav modified cars.

Thought it may be a good read for someone anyway

Also, I put this in here as I didn't really feel that there were that many with stretched tyres, if at all!

 

[jesus]

30cm is still quite a lot

it looks s**t anyway

however, nice find

 

[Rasclart]

30cm thats a FOOT!!!!!!!!

 

[Gareth]

30cm, that's stupid.

 

[The Boosh!]

think you read it wrong mate. just found it..

2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;


In short, the wheel must NOT protrude more than 30mm past the edge of the mudguard

 

[Rasclart]

LOL 3cm thats more like it

There was a lad I knew who I did my apprenticeship with totalled his car and died he had wheels that stuck out massivly due to the wrong offset. They trailered his car around to car shows to show the dangers of it!

 

[ChrisBClio]

LOL 3cm thats more like it

There was a lad I knew who I did my apprenticeship with totalled his car and died he had wheels that stuck out massivly due to the wrong offset. They trailered his car around to car shows to show the dangers of it!

Fuckin hell, that's a bit harsh!

As for that website! Rammed full of do-gooder busybody fuckwits.
However, I wouldn't imagine stretching tyres can be that healthy for the rubber like. I quite like the look on some cars though.

 

[VeinAST]

Cheers. Bad typo

 

[ditz]

not questioning, but i fail to see how wheels being wider than the arches is a CAUSE for him totaling his car????

if the wheels were the wrong offset handling would change, if they sat wider out then yes you'd get different charecteristics but a cause for crashing it?

 

[The Boosh!]

not questioning, but i fail to see how wheels being wider than the arches is a CAUSE for him totaling his car????

if the wheels were the wrong offset handling would change, if they sat wider out then yes you'd get different charecteristics but a cause for crashing it?

Bad driving skills IMO

 

[SBV116]

Them golf wheels look unsafe to me!

 

[ditz]

not questioning, but i fail to see how wheels being wider than the arches is a CAUSE for him totaling his car????

if the wheels were the wrong offset handling would change, if they sat wider out then yes you'd get different charecteristics but a cause for crashing it?

Bad driving skills IMO

exactly, fair enough the kids died and people are trying to justify it etc but christ if he spaced the wheels out a foot a side its still not going to dangerous handling charecterisc wise

 

[oneseventwo]

if he spaced the wheels out a foot a side its still not going to dangerous handling charecterisc wise

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but surely the issue isn't the wheels being spaced out further than the should? IT's probably not sensible, but should cause too much of an issue.

The problem is the tyres are actually stretched out of shape, which must make a right mess of the effective grip pattern. Would any of you run your tyres massively over/under-inflated, which would equate to the same sort of thing?

Please correct me if I'm wrong :S

 

[The Boosh!]

if he spaced the wheels out a foot a side its still not going to dangerous handling charecterisc wise

Maybe I'm misunderstanding this, but surely the issue isn't the wheels being spaced out further than the should? IT's probably not sensible, but should cause too much of an issue.

The problem is the tyres are actually stretched out of shape, which must make a right mess of the effective grip pattern. Would any of you run your tyres massively over/under-inflated, which would equate to the same sort of thing?

Please correct me if I'm wrong :S

They have been doing it in europe for ages now and they get through their MOT fine, which might i add is much stricter than ours. Also, the answer in the article doesn't really answer the question about tyre stretching, just how far wheels can stick out. as long as its done correctly i cant see how it would make a mess of the grip if the inflation is adjusted accordingly. surly road surface contact would be the same. Race cars also use streatched tyres IIRC (the proper american ones)

 

[Chili Red]

But more likely comes under:

Section 4a of the 'I LOOK A COMPLETE TOOL AND AM BEGGING TO BE PULLED OVER' Act 2008

PMSL

 

[Tony Hunter]

SHITE

 

[oneseventwo]

Race cars also use streatched tyres IIRC (the proper american ones)

Didn't know this, but racers are running in a very controlled environment - i.e. they know what corners they'll be going around, surface quality, how often and the speeds they'll be doing...

s**tE

I take you're not going to be doing this to your Cup racer then?

 

[Longy]

I reckon his tyres stick out more than 30mm:

 

[Tony Hunter]

Your not wrong Greg

 

[Gumby]

But more likely comes under:

Section 4a of the 'I LOOK A COMPLETE TOOL AND AM BEGGING TO BE PULLED OVER' Act 2008

PMSL

LOL