Which Engine

[Will B]

Right i have finally decided on getting myself a clio after looking at a number of different cars. I would love a 172 however im only 19 and insurance is an issue.

Basically i would like to know what engine size you would recommend the 1.2 or 1.4 what is the most reliable and which has the most tuning potential etc also where do you stand with conversions as i have owned fiesta's and corsa's and there is a lot of freedom as far as conversions go.

Cheers Will

 

[SteveS Cup]

Tuneable? I wouldn't really bother... not in a rude way. But if you want cheap insurance then stick with a std one rather than waste money on modding a 1.4 for very little gain and then the insurance company charging you a fortune for the mods.

Conversions... imho it's not worth it. You can buy a ph1 172 for £1500... Corsa's have lots of conversions as they never made a 2.0 corsa... they do make a 2.0 clio though so what is the point.

Just my opinion though.

 

[Will B]

thanks for the reply mate, i understand what your saying and take it all on board, as i said im new to clios so just trying to find out a few things.

what would you say was the better engine then i know the 1.4 has a bit more poke but i noticed theres quite a few 1.2's on the forum and i haven't seen many 1.4's is there something i am missing out on ?

 

[SteveS Cup]

No idea, I'm presuming the extra oomph isn't worth the extra insurance costs???????

My only advice is this... Don't waste your money. I wasted so much on Insurance cos I wanted a "hot hatch" when I was 18 that had I of waited, saved my money I would now be debt free with an M3 on the driveway!

 

[Will B]

well insurance aint bad at all on the 1.4 or the 1.2 not really a great deal different im 19 two years no claims currently own a 1.4 corolla vvti (100bhp) fully comp insurance for £650.84

 

[SteveS Cup]

How much to insure a 172? Surely a 1.2 / 1.4 Clio would be a downgrade?

I had a 20VT Ibiza Cupra at 18... and that wasn't "that" bad on insurance.

 

[Will B]

yeah it would be a down grade but i want something i can have a play with, do a few mods to etc, im also really bored of the corolla its too much like an old mans car.

Just done a quick quote on gocompare for the 172 cheapest was £2,508.46 fully comp. The 1.4 is just £790 and the 1.2 is £672

 

[dmn1989]

the 1.4 is quite a good engine in the clio however the coil packs are known for going, have you maybe looked for a 1.6 clio?

 

[MrRSi]

Have you tryed a 1.6 Clio?
They do a Mk2 Ph2 1.6, Also a Mk2 Ph1 1.6 16v RSi (I have got)

Just to open you options.

 

[Dean.]

i got my 182 insured at 1300 fully comp at 19 try admiral and add your parents..

 

[pablo.87]

The dci 100 is suppost to be nippy after a remap and I imagine cheap to insure and very cheap to tax £35? Haven't owned one but might be worth looking into.

 

[Will B]

i got my 182 insured at 1300 fully comp at 19 try admiral and add your parents..

My quote on the 172 was higher with admiral and that was with my parents on it.

Gonna have a quick look at the 1.6's

 

[Will B]

Just done a quote using the same details as the 1.4 and 1.2 on the 1.6 and it just tips a grand. So gonna stick with the 1.4 i think, if was going to be paying over a grand i think i'd get a seat leon.

 

[Sarah]

As above ive heard good stuff about the dci

What Phase are you planning on getting?

also im sure there a 1.6 16v engine available

the 1.4 16v engines were 98bhp iirc so still a pokey little machine

 

[theduck]

I'd look at a DCi if I wanted to tune a small block clio on a budget, or a 1.6 if money was no issue.

 

[Will B]

if money was not issue i'd have a 172. And sorry for being dumb but is the dci turbo or non turbo ? Cheers

 

[Will B]

As above ive heard good stuff about the dci

What Phase are you planning on getting?

also im sure there a 1.6 16v engine available

the 1.4 16v engines were 98bhp iirc so still a pokey little machine

Phase 2 i think, is phase 1 the one with the diamond on the bonnet and the phase 2 with it on the grill ?

 

[theduck]

its turbo, and I meant if I wanted to tune small block. TBH, if money was no issue I probably wouldnt touch a 172, because it's all been done.

 

[Will B]

ah right didnt realise it was a turbo engine, was expecting it to say tdci instead or something. might have to look into that a bit more then.

 

[Sarah]

Phase 2 i think, is phase 1 the one with the diamond on the bonnet and the phase 2 with it on the grill ?

Yeah, the ph2 is a nicer drive in the non sport IMO

 

[Magic Johnson]

<3 the ph1. Don't think I could have a non-sport ph2...oh wait.

It's so much fun to drive, even though I had the bottom spec one with no power steering, 13" alloys and 5 doors I loved it lol.

 

[GM_182]

Do you want a 172 for the performance or the looks?

If insurance is a problem which at 19 I suspect it will be, maybe you should consider buying a rep? I'm not a huge fan but I have seen a few on the forum that really do look good, rather than looking like a dogs dinner.

 

[Will B]

been lookin on the dci club site, and its pushing me slightly closer to having a dci. Quite a few little mods you can do such as the remap, intercooler etc... and i like the idea of having a turbo for a change. Ill be doing quite a few miles so should work out better for me !

Everyones help and advice has been great !

 

[Will B]

Do you want a 172 for the performance or the looks?

If insurance is a problem which at 19 I suspect it will be, maybe you should consider buying a rep? I'm not a huge fan but I have seen a few on the forum that really do look good, rather than looking like a dogs dinner.

Its a mixture of both to be honest mate, i think the renault sports look really smart and obviously perform really well. I think im gonna go for a dci (100) and see what happens, ideas so far are 182 alloys and a 172 rear bumper etc.. not too fussed about bein a rep or bein a mix and match of different cars as long as i am happy with the outcome.

 

[dmn1989]

dci = diesel commonrail injection (turbo bulit in)

tbh i'd stay to the 1.4 over the diesel unless you want to put money into it

http://pistonheads.com/sales/1708255.htm dci
http://pistonheads.com/sales/1745129.htm 1.4
http://pistonheads.com/sales/1730335.htm 1.6 16v

cheap new shape: http://pistonheads.com/sales/1746684.htm

 

[Magic Johnson]

Insurance on dCi's is dearer than the 1.2/1.4's, but the tax is miles cheaper. Beware of the costly repairs though. Tbh, if you're not doing 20k miles+ per year, go for the 1.2/4.

 

[Saner]

ph1 1.4 16v Si!


Cheap on everything and still fast for what it is

 

[gaz44]

Its a mixture of both to be honest mate, i think the renault sports look really smart and obviously perform really well. I think im gonna go for a dci (100) and see what happens, ideas so far are 182 alloys and a 172 rear bumper etc.. not too fussed about bein a rep or bein a mix and match of different cars as long as i am happy with the outcome.

At least you'll get some torque!

 

[Cain 200RS]

Will B I'm gonna be paying £2180 for my Clio 200 on my insurance, I'm 21 with my full license for a month with no no claims. I did the quote on quotezone, and the cheapest company that offered me insurance was Thames-city Insurance. Gocompare and meerkat were charging over £5k for the same car. Why the big difference I don't know. I did some searching on google for 'performance car insurance for young drivers' and quote-zone came up, and they were the cheapest comparison website I've come across.
I will say that the excess is VERY high, so if you decide to try and save on the monthly costs insurance companies will give you the benefit of the doubt, but rinse you if you smash your car into someone else's. So the moral is if you crash, make sure you didn't cause it!

 

[gaz44]

Will B I'm gonna be paying £2180 for my Clio 200 on my insurance, I'm 21 with my full license for a month with no no claims. I did the quote on quotezone, and the cheapest company that offered me insurance was Thames-city Insurance. Gocompare and meerkat were charging over £5k for the same car. Why the big difference I don't know. I did some searching on google for 'performance car insurance for young drivers' and quote-zone came up, and they were the cheapest comparison website I've come across.
I will say that the excess is VERY high, so if you decide to try and save on the monthly costs insurance companies will give you the benefit of the doubt, but rinse you if you smash your car into someone else's. So the moral is if you crash, make sure you didn't cause it!

Wrong thread and wow, proper mental!

 

[Will B]

i keep having people say things that change my mind and think twice, the dci appeals to me because its still cheap to insure but with a couple of mods will be running at 130 -140 bhp where as the 1.4 will never be far off standard under the bonnet.

 

[daydotz]

i love that dci 100 its got all the toys


the owners on here as well

 

[Cain 200RS]

Its not the wrong thread I was basically saying he might be able to find cheaper insurance if he tries other comparison websites or not using them altogether, as they charge commission which makes the quote more expensive etc, since I used go-compare and they qouted double for similar companies than what quotezone was quoting.

 

[dmn1989]

i love that dci 100 its got all the toys


the owners on here as well

owner only got it recently iirc

 

[Brett]

I'd go for the dci. They're a big improvement over the small petrol engines. Actually feel like they have a bit of go in them.

 

[jdh91]

dont bother tuning the engine just put some springs and alloys on it is more than enough with low powered cars. plus how is your insurance that low already, im paying much more for my 1.4 lol and im getting a clio 16 vavler in december lol.

 

[Will.]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=512711

Haii

 

[Martin_172]

dci 100 £270 remap, 130bhp 190lb/ft done.

handles out the box no need for anything else to be done to it!