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Black Clio 182
daz you know to much about xenons lol
Black Clio 182
Floodie said:Naa crap, just dig up your local lighthouse and plop that on your roof
now thats just being silly
you just need to eat alot of carrots and then you wont need lights at all
Whoever said that Xenons weren't any better than standard deffo have Xenon envy. :rasp:
I went from a non-Xenon car to the 182, what a difference. Then I went back to a car without them and missed them like hell, the road was so dim and yellow; not to mention it didn't light up the side of the road anywhere near as good as the Xenons.
I've just changed back to a car with Xenons and I dunno how I managed without them; a huge difference in colour of light, a bit brighter but a light up a much larger area of road, particularly to the sides of the car.
I went from a non-Xenon car to the 182, what a difference. Then I went back to a car without them and missed them like hell, the road was so dim and yellow; not to mention it didn't light up the side of the road anywhere near as good as the Xenons.
I've just changed back to a car with Xenons and I dunno how I managed without them; a huge difference in colour of light, a bit brighter but a light up a much larger area of road, particularly to the sides of the car.
Meggy Mk4 1.6DCI 160
I had a mk1 172, even though I miss the car, I dont miss the standard bulb system in it, the xenon in the 182 is far better, clearer crisper and gives the 182 a more "expensive" look even though it isnt any more to buy when the mk1 was being sold new. Its fun to drive on the motorway with them on at night because other people in front think its a big posh car behind them.. I've had some people give me dirty looks because they've been followed by a clio with xenons! .. bunch of jealous sods, thats all I can say :rasp:
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Thats the only real thing that puts me off buying a trophy/cup i love my xenons.
FF 182, K5 GSX-R1000
Notice only people who don't have HID say halogen are better, the HID are fantastic and id hate to go back to normal bulbs.
Must be the weight of the HIDs that make MarkCup faster than me on the airfield days tho, otherwise id have him LMFAO. WILL MAKE F_ALL DIFFERENCE!
Must be the weight of the HIDs that make MarkCup faster than me on the airfield days tho, otherwise id have him LMFAO. WILL MAKE F_ALL DIFFERENCE!
HID's are not Xenons....
There is a reason called cost, some RS's cost less. The Trophy's dampers cost would outweigh the slight increase in cost over a FF 182 with cup options. So what do they do? They cut down on other costs, eg Xenons, interior.
Renault placed it so well with the 172 cup (not 182 cup, as weight saving was pathetic) again it was and is a simple way to save money and sell more, as it costs less. There are not many people willing to pay what would be about £16,300+ for a trophy having xenons????.
PS people need to know the difference between HID's and Xenons against normal Hologen. The reason Xenon costs is it is better and lights the road better. Clios do not have bixenon so only works on the dipped beam. Yet again on full beam you stil have the huge behefits of xenon plus the normal illumination.
So so much xenon envy it's unreal. Anyone who says else should read all the reports, and not be such a childish and jealeous unknowing person.
Get a grip the xenons are by far the better arrangement. Live with it.
Costs are costs to a manufactorer nothing else.
Blaze
There is a reason called cost, some RS's cost less. The Trophy's dampers cost would outweigh the slight increase in cost over a FF 182 with cup options. So what do they do? They cut down on other costs, eg Xenons, interior.
Renault placed it so well with the 172 cup (not 182 cup, as weight saving was pathetic) again it was and is a simple way to save money and sell more, as it costs less. There are not many people willing to pay what would be about £16,300+ for a trophy having xenons????.
PS people need to know the difference between HID's and Xenons against normal Hologen. The reason Xenon costs is it is better and lights the road better. Clios do not have bixenon so only works on the dipped beam. Yet again on full beam you stil have the huge behefits of xenon plus the normal illumination.
So so much xenon envy it's unreal. Anyone who says else should read all the reports, and not be such a childish and jealeous unknowing person.
Get a grip the xenons are by far the better arrangement. Live with it.
Costs are costs to a manufactorer nothing else.
Blaze
ph1 172...a red one
^^^ cracked me up too...what i find strange is that the ph1 172 has the same bulbs for the side lights as the ph2 have for main beams!!
FF 182, K5 GSX-R1000
Blaze, What you on about?
What is H.I.D.?
H.I.D. stands for High Intensity Discharge. It refers to lighting technology that relies on an electrical charge to ignite xenon gas contained in a sealed bulb (capsule). HID lighting doesn't have a filament but instead creates light by igniting an arc between two electrodes. HID lights get their name from the intense white light produced by the electrical discharge. HID lamps are also called xenon lamps, referring to a gas inside the lamps.
What is H.I.D.?
Mk1 V6 Import
Daz_2427 said:
Incorrect....www.HIDS4U.co.uk do aftermarket HID conversion kits for H7 and HB3 bulbs ie dipped beam and main beam. Waste of time for the main beam but it can be done. I always thought OEM xenons had both bulbs as HID's...
Nockmeister???? What's side lights got to do with it. Read what you have just typed. Side lights the same as dipped beam????? LOL
PaulJ their is gas in all bulbs it's the way it does it. HID's are what was fitted to the MK1 172, I had one, the 182 does NOT. Xenons have Xenon and have high voltage packs. They are not the same.
Blaze
PaulJ their is gas in all bulbs it's the way it does it. HID's are what was fitted to the MK1 172, I had one, the 182 does NOT. Xenons have Xenon and have high voltage packs. They are not the same.
Blaze
I have to say that reading some comments about xenons being pointless and nothing better than standard, makes me laugh. Definately xenon jealousy. I went from a 182 ff to a Trophy and the only thing I missed from the ff was the xenons... they are superb! Look the business too.
So many comments without knowledge. How come the 172 MK1 had HID's and the 182 (not cup,trophy) has been advertised along with the 172 MK2 as xenons. There is a difference. Read it. Either way the lights on a MK1 are no where near the same as a MK2,
I give up a youngun knows better than everyone else????????
This has been stipulated, proved, educated and done so many times. Read the tech. specs. This has been done over too many times. I just like to watch the flailings.
Blaze
ps put a MK1 against a MK2 and you will see a huge difference
I give up a youngun knows better than everyone else????????
This has been stipulated, proved, educated and done so many times. Read the tech. specs. This has been done over too many times. I just like to watch the flailings.
Blaze
ps put a MK1 against a MK2 and you will see a huge difference
PaulJ I love a debate.
When the MK1 172 was built there were cars with auto levellers/ washers and the rainbow tinge, i.e. xenons. Mostly from higher value purchases eg BMW, Merc, Lezus,, not the MK1 172. Rules for the fitment were there at the time. EU regs. anyone?.
Then the FF172/182 were fitted with xenons and have had to have had washer jets and auto levellers as STANDARD. Explain????
Blaze
When the MK1 172 was built there were cars with auto levellers/ washers and the rainbow tinge, i.e. xenons. Mostly from higher value purchases eg BMW, Merc, Lezus,, not the MK1 172. Rules for the fitment were there at the time. EU regs. anyone?.
Then the FF172/182 were fitted with xenons and have had to have had washer jets and auto levellers as STANDARD. Explain????
Blaze
Pau,l
Why should I, you've made a huge mistake. (gas/voltage anyone) I don't like to even suggest I'm the best at explanation. However the mere hint of my last post means you were mistaken.
I can cut and paste if wanted, the reality still remains the same. If you are that bothered read up. They will explain better than me anyway.
My post still stands as you are aware these specs. are correct.
Get over it, xenons are not HID nor any form of Hologen. Xenons are still the best at lighting the road, in what people call normal conditions.
These facts, after all have been well and truely publishised. The one thing a manufacturer will do is lie about these types of specifications.
Sorry but it's a shame you feel it necessary to ask this. Surely you should read up before trying to win a debate you can't.
Blaze
Why should I, you've made a huge mistake. (gas/voltage anyone) I don't like to even suggest I'm the best at explanation. However the mere hint of my last post means you were mistaken.
I can cut and paste if wanted, the reality still remains the same. If you are that bothered read up. They will explain better than me anyway.
My post still stands as you are aware these specs. are correct.
Get over it, xenons are not HID nor any form of Hologen. Xenons are still the best at lighting the road, in what people call normal conditions.
These facts, after all have been well and truely publishised. The one thing a manufacturer will do is lie about these types of specifications.
Sorry but it's a shame you feel it necessary to ask this. Surely you should read up before trying to win a debate you can't.
Blaze
