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Why do we undervalue RS cars on this forum?????



Steve

ClioSport Club Member
  ST3 8.5
Just got back from shopping & saw an 02 Monacco 172 sat on a stealers forcourt for £6495!

Now looking at the for sale section some are giving 05 182's away at near that!!

At least autotrader has some sensible people selling at decent amounts;)
 

Bluebeard

ClioSport Moderator
  Whichever has fuel
Couldn't agree more Steve!

I've been looking on Pistonheads and autotrader for a 172 and Cliosport members are the only people to blame for depreciation! Everyone on here de-values the product so much...

There was a 05 182 on here for 7500 and the exact same car with 2k miles less was on PH for 8950!!
 

DrR

ClioSport Club Member
  VW Golf GTD
Could advertise other peoples cars for more money then by and sell on ;)
 
  Monaro VXR/Cupra TDi
I paid £8050 for my 05' 182 Cup with 16K on the clock. I felt I got a good deal as for the care and attention the car had received. Very nicely looked after.:) :)

Though I wouldn't say I got it cheap, though not expensive either. Depreciation hits hard in the first two to three years with nearly all cars.
 
  www.renparts.co.uk
you saw it on a dealers forecourt. Little bit different, Finance, warranty, Peace of mind (or so people think). Much different to selling privately. when selling privately you don't have a dealership and an army of staff to maintain, as well as making a profit.
 
  Monaro VXR/Cupra TDi
I always buy privately, why involve a middle man for his cut. The supposed warranty sometimes isn't all what it's cracked up to be.
 
  Golf R
Theres a different bettwen what people are asking what there getting and what there getting in part ex.

exactly... just because a dealer wants 6495 for the 172, doesn't mean that they'll get it

but i do agree to an extent that CS undervalues cars... that's why we sold Bubbles 182 via pistonheads and not on here.

3 pages of 'mint car', 'if only i had the money' and 'if it's still for sale in 9 months when i rob a bank/my granny/win the lottery i'll have it' don't sell the car :mad:
 
3 pages of 'mint car', 'if only i had the money' and 'if it's still for sale in 9 months when i rob a bank/my granny/win the lottery i'll have it' don't sell the car :mad:

lol, you forgot 'If you split i'll take x/y/z' and the biggest fave 'If only I could afford the insurance'

Should just lock those forums.
 

Gaz_

ClioSport Club Member
  Extreme mode
Yep, total bollox this forum at times. Apparently a 55 plate 182 is overpriced at 8k....... (from what i read on a recent thread, bearing in mind it has maufactures warrenty etc) its still pricey as my mate dave got one for blah blah blah........
 

Steve

ClioSport Club Member
  ST3 8.5
Mere pocket change, don't they all earn £60K+ on here :quiet:

It's just which pocket ;)







Theres a different bettwen what people are asking what there getting and what there getting in part ex.

exactly... just because a dealer wants 6495 for the 172, doesn't mean that they'll get it

but i do agree to an extent that CS undervalues cars... that's why we sold Bubbles 182 via pistonheads and not on here.

3 pages of 'mint car', 'if only i had the money' and 'if it's still for sale in 9 months when i rob a bank/my granny/win the lottery i'll have it' don't sell the car :mad:
 
  Golf R
3 pages of 'mint car', 'if only i had the money' and 'if it's still for sale in 9 months when i rob a bank/my granny/win the lottery i'll have it' don't sell the car :mad:

lol, you forgot 'If you split i'll take x/y/z' and the biggest fave 'If only I could afford the insurance'

Should just lock those forums.

b****cks... knew i'd forgotten another of the favourite comments.... lol

agree though, should just be locked and OP allowed to bump it. but no matter how many times thats suggested there's a reason for not doing it :S
 
  106 GTi
Everyone wants something for nothing these days ! If I ever came to sell mine I would not bother advertising it on here.
 

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  MK2 FRS
more whinging......

tbh, I dont beleive this forum really effects value of cars, I just think people want to buy on the cheap, thats how it is. Anyone who actually thinks an 02 reg 172 is worh 6.5k is sniffing something..... I sold mine for that nearly 2years ago!! lol

Thing is there are always bargains, mate paid 9.8k for his trophy with 7k on 18months ago? Was he bringing the market down? nope he just got a bargain! Cars are worth what people will pay.

As said retail is different ball game hence the px, private and retail valuations in parkers etc.
 
  172 cup TT
Just imagine how fussy they'll be off here too when they come to see the car after knowing all about it and their faults!!... be so hard to to keep the potential buyer from seeing the bad bits that are there.. best get a noob off PH or autotrader to see it etc...

oh, and take a leaf out of seatcupra.net... they dont allow any replies what so ever apart from the author to add bumps... Stops the typical w@nker ruining the thread saying how his best mates dads dog bought it for £10k less etc etc...
 
I sold mine via Cliosport as I trusted the potential buyers more.

There were way to many penises on pistonheads, some of the excuses for not turning up for a viewing were comical!
 
can't we just ban Haz from the marketplace...?

much easier solution surely!?

as for the original post, people on here have always undervalued cars. Not really sure why... but this little internet forum isn't going to make anyone's car depreciate in value in the real world lol.

On the subject of selling cars to members, the forum becomes part of the car's service history. A quick search will reveal all the problems the owner has had with the car, and what its been through etc. People don't think about this when they're posting threads.
 
  e60 M5 -172- dciheid
on here is always a bit cheaper, but most online enthuiast places are, for example seatcupra/ vx220 etc cars are all cheaper on there forums than on pheads etc.

However i do think on here is pretty bad for values and the perception is that unless its total utter rock bottom then its a shite deal. However iv seen a few decent prices and still they dont sell on here. Imo a pretty bad place for sellers to put there car, good for the buyer though, juts not many of them
 
  Civic Vtec y0
A car is only worth what some one is willing to pay for it, yea dealers may advertised a 02 172 for 6k, but if it doesnt sell then thats pointless
 
  Clio Sport 172 2.0i 16v
I always buy privately, why involve a middle man for his cut. The supposed warranty sometimes isn't all what it's cracked up to be.

fukin tell me about it fella, bought a warranty for my clio 172 from a main dealer.

waste of fukin time, jus put everything down to wear and tear.

typical convo

clutch went 1 week after getting it. oh thats wear and tear that.

wtf 1 weeks use. after a lengthy battle with the company got it paid for
 
  53 Clio's & counting
i was thinking this the other day,i think i got a good deal payin a smidge over 2k for my ph-quick bk in march,and tbh the way prices keep going up and down i might as well just run it for as long as i can
 
I agree with the majority of what's written in this thread, especailly the comments about 'if only I had the money' or 'if it's for sale in 2012 I might have it off you'.

The classic one (which I really hate) is people who try to do a deal by just posting up in the sellers thread. At the end of the day if your interested in a persons car, pm them about it, or just call them, don't tell the whole world about it.
 
  AMV8, Mk1 Golf
i totally agree with the fact this forum undervalues cars

ie been told both the clios i put up on here were overpriced, yet both sold on PH in a matter of weeks

we can influence the market of clios so we are effectively making our 0wn cars worth less
 


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