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WWDC 2014
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CrippsCorner
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208 GTi
Where there's a will there's a way, Windows version (with s**t commentary)
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Tom
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EV (s)
Idiot.
The Boosh!
ClioSport Admin
Elise, Duster
Proper like the sound of it. You downloaded beta Tom?
cafcross
ClioSport Club Member
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
Yeah
Rav4
Quite a few things I like, and some that should have been here a while ago.
What I like;
Markup - very handy. Specially for those people that aren't very IT savy and just want to modify some images for changes.
SMS integration.
Call integration - Picking up calls on the ipad/desktop is great.
Quick Wifi/Tethering
Handoff
Enterprise management
Family purchases
Family pics/chat - a bit like whatsapp if you include the group chats.
Pricing for cloud storage vs drop box
Translations on safari - this is going to be very interesting.
Bundles
Extensions
Homekit
SWIFT - if I was a hardcore programmer, I would have jizzed in my pants.
Mail on iOS looks very much like Mail app from Dropbox
What should have been ages ago;
Custom notifications both on iOS and an OS X.
Keyboard changes to iOS.
Improvements on Mail.
Overall
I find this a really welcomed development for apple.
If anything, now that I am working from home a lot more, things like the SMS / Call integration are going to be very handy, but propose a lot of disruptions if not managed properly.
Will I be getting an iPhone when this is available and swapping it for my Nexus 5. Yes.
Thanks,
G.
What I like;
Markup - very handy. Specially for those people that aren't very IT savy and just want to modify some images for changes.
SMS integration.
Call integration - Picking up calls on the ipad/desktop is great.
Quick Wifi/Tethering
Handoff
Enterprise management
Family purchases
Family pics/chat - a bit like whatsapp if you include the group chats.
Pricing for cloud storage vs drop box
Translations on safari - this is going to be very interesting.
Bundles
Extensions
Homekit
SWIFT - if I was a hardcore programmer, I would have jizzed in my pants.
Mail on iOS looks very much like Mail app from Dropbox
What should have been ages ago;
Custom notifications both on iOS and an OS X.
Keyboard changes to iOS.
Improvements on Mail.
Overall
I find this a really welcomed development for apple.
If anything, now that I am working from home a lot more, things like the SMS / Call integration are going to be very handy, but propose a lot of disruptions if not managed properly.
Will I be getting an iPhone when this is available and swapping it for my Nexus 5. Yes.
Thanks,
G.
Now they just need to grow some balls and enable tethering full stop, regardless of whether carriers allow it.
It's up to the carriers to police it, not apple.
This is a solid update, I still think (barring the screen size) the 5S is the best hardware hands down....and that's nearly a year on. iOS let it down by not having support for widgets or support to hooking into the OS....now it seems they've finally listened.
Give me a bigger screen and it's the first time in a few years that I think that I could be tempted back.
It's up to the carriers to police it, not apple.
This is a solid update, I still think (barring the screen size) the 5S is the best hardware hands down....and that's nearly a year on. iOS let it down by not having support for widgets or support to hooking into the OS....now it seems they've finally listened.
Give me a bigger screen and it's the first time in a few years that I think that I could be tempted back.
Double Edit:
Seems that giffgaff does indeed now have a carrier file.....that really is about the last hurdle.
I still think the below is valid, although it would seemingly not affect me now.
They do, via Apple, but the carriers should be policing it themselves on their own network.
You should be able to enable tethering regardless of whether the carrier wants you to, giffgaff (virtual carrier) is a prime example of carrier that allows tethering (on some tariffs) but doesn't have their own carrier profile, so you're stuck with O2's which prohibits tethering unless you have it turned on in your O2 account.
If I use less than my in built allowance then it should be irrelevant how I use my data allowance, directly or tethered. I should point out that I rarely tether, but it is useful on occasion and giffgaff serves me well, I never use my call or data allowance.
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CrippsCorner
ClioSport Club Member
208 GTi
Well, it sounds like a lot. But for me personally I don't use Spotlight, iCloud or Siri. The interactive notifications will save what, 1 second per time?
Not interested about the Messages, keyboard or Family Sharing apps. Obviously I'll check out the photos thing, could be quite good. The one that could be useful is HealthKit as I do use Nike+ Move and sometimes MFP.
Think this was definitely a better round for OS 10 10.10 than iOS!
Not interested about the Messages, keyboard or Family Sharing apps. Obviously I'll check out the photos thing, could be quite good. The one that could be useful is HealthKit as I do use Nike+ Move and sometimes MFP.
Think this was definitely a better round for OS 10 10.10 than iOS!
I'm with Tom. (Not literally), this is huge although I can see why some of you think it's meh.
I've been quite vocal about how poor I felt certain parts of iOS were compared to Android, bits which should be in it were conspicuously missing. They've had widgets for a couple of releases, but provided no API to make use of it. Widgets are a killer feature on Android, you might not think you need them/want them but once you start using them on iOS you'll wonder how you ever managed without them.
Third party keyboards are huge as well, if you've ever used a decent third party keyboard on Android then again, you'll know just how good they can be. I hate using iOS7 because of the horrific UI mistake that is Caps, why on earth they don't reflect the caps key in the actual letters is just odd, but at least in 8 you'll have to choice of keyboard.
My only real iOS gripe that remains is the lack of an app draw, the home screen should be where I stick my apps from the drawer, the drawer should show them all, this way all the crap built in apps that I don't like/use/want can be hidden.
The extension apis are huge as well, this is another killer feature of Android that is sorely missing on iOS. Now you will see apps making use of other app features.
I fully expected Apple to carry on with their head in the sand ignoring basic functionality gaps with their "We'll do it our way" approach, but they've decided to follow a different approach now. Maybe now we're seeing the fruits of Scott Forstalls departure.
I've been on a Nexus for nearly 2 years because I felt iOS lagged badly, I suspect (if the bigger screen makes an appearance) I'll be back under iOS.
I've been quite vocal about how poor I felt certain parts of iOS were compared to Android, bits which should be in it were conspicuously missing. They've had widgets for a couple of releases, but provided no API to make use of it. Widgets are a killer feature on Android, you might not think you need them/want them but once you start using them on iOS you'll wonder how you ever managed without them.
Third party keyboards are huge as well, if you've ever used a decent third party keyboard on Android then again, you'll know just how good they can be. I hate using iOS7 because of the horrific UI mistake that is Caps, why on earth they don't reflect the caps key in the actual letters is just odd, but at least in 8 you'll have to choice of keyboard.
My only real iOS gripe that remains is the lack of an app draw, the home screen should be where I stick my apps from the drawer, the drawer should show them all, this way all the crap built in apps that I don't like/use/want can be hidden.
The extension apis are huge as well, this is another killer feature of Android that is sorely missing on iOS. Now you will see apps making use of other app features.
I fully expected Apple to carry on with their head in the sand ignoring basic functionality gaps with their "We'll do it our way" approach, but they've decided to follow a different approach now. Maybe now we're seeing the fruits of Scott Forstalls departure.
I've been on a Nexus for nearly 2 years because I felt iOS lagged badly, I suspect (if the bigger screen makes an appearance) I'll be back under iOS.
Have a flick through the gallery, you can see various widgets in action including the eBay one.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/2/5772602/apple-will-bring-3rd-party-widgets-to-ios-8
http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/2/5772602/apple-will-bring-3rd-party-widgets-to-ios-8
CrippsCorner
ClioSport Club Member
208 GTi
I think I'm just hard to be impressed these days. All I want is better battery life! Until we get Morph or something similar.
Rav4
I'm with Tom. (Not literally), this is huge although I can see why some of you think it's meh.
I've been quite vocal about how poor I felt certain parts of iOS were compared to Android, bits which should be in it were conspicuously missing. They've had widgets for a couple of releases, but provided no API to make use of it. Widgets are a killer feature on Android, you might not think you need them/want them but once you start using them on iOS you'll wonder how you ever managed without them.
Third party keyboards are huge as well, if you've ever used a decent third party keyboard on Android then again, you'll know just how good they can be. I hate using iOS7 because of the horrific UI mistake that is Caps, why on earth they don't reflect the caps key in the actual letters is just odd, but at least in 8 you'll have to choice of keyboard.
My only real iOS gripe that remains is the lack of an app draw, the home screen should be where I stick my apps from the drawer, the drawer should show them all, this way all the crap built in apps that I don't like/use/want can be hidden.
The extension apis are huge as well, this is another killer feature of Android that is sorely missing on iOS. Now you will see apps making use of other app features.
I fully expected Apple to carry on with their head in the sand ignoring basic functionality gaps with their "We'll do it our way" approach, but they've decided to follow a different approach now. Maybe now we're seeing the fruits of Scott Forstalls departure.
I've been on a Nexus for nearly 2 years because I felt iOS lagged badly, I suspect (if the bigger screen makes an appearance) I'll be back under iOS.
You're pretty much spot on, these are pretty much my thoughts too.
Certainly after a more continued use of this under my iPad mini, iPhone and Yosemite on my mac mini I'm less underwhelmed .. I still think Yosemite was the killer release. The Apis opening is a major breakthrough I agree, BUT that won't be prudent until we see app updates, maybe 6 months time. There certainly is now a big hole paved for a successful future let's just see if it materialises .. But after a weeks use, I can see improvements .. Let's see what the devs create. For me ios8 is a developer release not a consumer one .. A much needed route, but it means ios9 will blow us out the water!
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