Z4 - Perfect No More (Being fixed so it's all OK (Courtesy post#149))

[Truffs]

I'd actually be happy with that as a hire car, it is very Cheltenham Average though

 

[Rob]

I've just done a new insurance quote, I only insured the Z4 a week ago, it's gone up over £500

That's a 50% increase for having a car hit mine whilst parked.

Insurance companies are honestly the biggest cnuts on earth

 

[Poopensharten]

They do say no car handles quite like a courtsey car!

 

[Gally]

The estimate thing is fine mate just get it at a later date.

The insurance thing is kinda still right though. You are statstically more likely to be hit than someone who hasn't. That you can't deny. It's not fair but there you go.

If something happened to my car i'd be looking into compensation from the 3rd party for devaluing the car. It's something i've been researching recently but nothing concrete yet.

Nice A3!

 

[Naith]

whats happened here, rob pretended he's been hit to justify wanting a diesel and has paid laura off to smash her car up?

or am i wide of the mark?

 

[Dan@M.A.D]

What engine is in the a3?, That's a quality courtesy car!

TDI A3'S >petrols all day long!

 

[kpowell911]

That Courtesy car is Win! Ask if you can keep it

 

[JD]

Re: Z4 - Perfect No More

JD - I didn't know you were up there? FFS! I think that's the day I leave! Just checked, yep!

What are you there for?

A well earned break fella. Staying in the cottage we chatted about ages ago when you posted photos of the clio up there. Near Patterdale?

 

[Tunst]

Look forward to seeing the Zed mate, Better come for a visit! Im off all weekend.. Hope its sorted in time

 

[Ian_182]

I'd be happy with that.Lets hope they match the silver ok on the repair.Its a bugger to make right tbh.

Once its done pull on a tesco forecourt at night.Those lights show up everything...

All the best with it though...

 

[Bodge!]

German car for German car.

I fail to see a problem!

 

[Slammed172]

THAT'S NOT A COURTESY CAR IT'S A HIRE CAR !

PEDANTIC !

Hate customers like you, lol.

 

[Wick]

I've just done a new insurance quote, I only insured the Z4 a week ago, it's gone up over £500

That's a 50% increase for having a car hit mine whilst parked.

Insurance companies are honestly the biggest cnuts on earth

This is the biggest joke. I could even understand if it was a non fault accident that you were involved in, but they need to draw the line somewhere... Someone hitting your parked vehicle takes the biscuit.

 

[Slammed172]

Statistically your more likely to be involved in a crash because of this, hence the larger premium.

Absolute joke, however different insurance companies handle it different, the small ones tend to turn a blind eye to it if you tell them the circumstances.

People like Admiral are s**t for this thing. They hiked my insurance up about £150 for someone sliding into my car in the snow whilst parked and I DIDN'T even claim, but because I rang and asked for advise they noted it down as an accident.

 

[Rob]

The estimate thing is fine mate just get it at a later date.

The insurance thing is kinda still right though. You are statstically more likely to be hit than someone who hasn't. That you can't deny. It's not fair but there you go.

If something happened to my car i'd be looking into compensation from the 3rd party for devaluing the car. It's something i've been researching recently but nothing concrete yet.

Nice A3!

I'm sorry Kev, but that really is utter s**t, proper proper bullshit.

I can understand saying that someone who has been in an accident is more likely to have another, but I have no been in an accident, someone hit a parked car for f**k sake! The fact this has happened has change NOTHING to do with my likelyhood to have another accident.

whats happened here, rob pretended he's been hit to justify wanting a diesel and has paid laura off to smash her car up?

or am i wide of the mark?

Not too far off treacle, not just a pretty face <3

What engine is in the a3?, That's a quality courtesy car!

TDI A3'S >petrols all day long!

One that sounds like a tractor? Fudged if I know.

A well earned break fella. Staying in the cottage we chatted about ages ago when you posted photos of the clio up there. Near Patterdale?

Real shame we're not there at the same time! Would have been a good time to grab some lunch or something with the women.

Look forward to seeing the Zed mate, Better come for a visit! Im off all weekend.. Hope its sorted in time

I hope it's sorted too, or I'll be driving this tractor to somewhere I love enjoying the roads. Kill me.

I'd be happy with that.Lets hope they match the silver ok on the repair.Its a bugger to make right tbh.

Once its done pull on a tesco forecourt at night.Those lights show up everything...

All the best with it though...

I'm worried about the silver match myself, I'll be REALLY REALLY REALLY scrutinising it myself before I say I'm happy with it.

German car for German car.

I fail to see a problem!

Zee new German-ness is not as fun as zee old one!

THAT'S NOT A COURTESY CAR IT'S A HIRE CAR !

PEDANTIC !

Hate customers like you, lol.

What's the difference then Pedantic man?

This is the biggest joke. I could even understand if it was a non fault accident that you were involved in, but they need to draw the line somewhere... Someone hitting your parked vehicle takes the biscuit.

You're f**king telling me, 50% increase in my premium because some stupid ginger c**t can't drive.

Statistically your more likely to be involved in a crash because of this, hence the larger premium.

Absolute joke, however different insurance companies handle it different, the small ones tend to turn a blind eye to it if you tell them the circumstances.

People like Admiral are s**t for this thing. They hiked my insurance up about £150 for someone sliding into my car in the snow whilst parked and I DIDN'T even claim, but because I rang and asked for advise they noted it down as an accident.

Thing is, that's utter bullshit, see what I said above to Kev.

 

[BIGASH]

Never nice to happen at any time but to happen when you have just got a new car must be twice as maddening! Sorry to see this and I hope they get it sorted for you and do a good job I can't believe they are hiring the A3 out at that price it is such rip off! When my daily broke down and got recovered BMW have an agreement that the hire car is a like for like replacement or better, they gave me a brand new 3 litre diesel X5 M-sport and when I read the hire agreement it was only costing mondial assistance (BMW) £33 a day!

Can any of the bodyshop or insurance guys clarify but i'm fairly sure that the cost of that hire car for the duration you have it will be added to the claim amount that you have to state to your insurance claim come renewal time? I am fairly sure it does from previous experience of when my dad got driven into a few years ago. So if it takes them 3 weeks to repair then it will add just shy of 4k to the claim of the incident :S As mentioned in your other thread it infuriates me how so many insurers will charge you extra even though you have done nothing wrong Hope you get sorted and I will look forward to seeing the photos from the repair when completed !

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Really dont understand the rise.

Mine didn't go up after my car was hit in a carpark. I think it went down...

Zero fault, zero cost 'claim'.

Greenlight FTW.

 

[Gally]

It is bullshit mate. That's insurance in general! Full of bullshit!

It's all about stats.

 

[Ollie82.]

In terms of the courtesy car situation, I think if I was hit by a third party and offered like for like then I'd turn it down.
The reason being that the cost per day of you being in that car actually goes on to the costs of the repairs so even if the cost of the damage to your car is below the total loss threshold it can be pushed over by the cost of having the spaffy courtesy car you demanded to have.

 

[Gally]

Sadly Ollie that isn't taken into consideration until it's too late in most of our cases. Some of the hire car bills are, as you shockingly high.

Accident management and hire car companies. The true cost of rising premiums.

 

[Rob]

I'm not sure that's the case Ollie?

They've assessed my car and are already repairing it starting today, say this took three weeks... After they're half way through my courtesy car pushes it over the 66% threshold so would they then stop and scrap my motor???

I didn't "demand" the nice car, I just said yes when asked if I wanted one, TBH I did that for three reasons:

1) I've done nothing wrong here so why should I drive around in a POS?
2) I'm currently doing quite a lot of mileage on motorways so I wouldn't want to be in a 1.0 Micra
3) I'm project manager on a new job at work, being the youngest of my team, I'd look even more like a "youth" in some pony motor, so I need to arrive in something half decent.

 

[Gally]

I don't think Ollie worded it correctly although on his side of the repair industry it might be a lot different due to the expense involved.

The 65% threshold is for repair costs vs Pre accident value.

 

[Rob]

I just hope they do a proper job at this repair place.

 

[.Adam.]

How do you stand if you aren't happy with the workmanship? Always wondered this.

 

[Rob]

I'll kick up the biggest fuss known to man, but hopefully one of the insurance boys can tell us where I'd actually stand.

Kind of wish I'd taken it to BMW now... there's one local too.

 

[.Adam.]

I'm sure it will turn out fine mate. I wouldn't worry too much.

 

[Laura]

be reet why dont you ask them to toutch in the bits like the filler cap you mentioned while they are at it, might do you a good deal and take a bit more effort over it if they are getting more work out of it

 

[Rob]

I'm phoning them today to touch the filler cap up

Great minds dear, great minds.

 

[Laura]

Are you the male version of me? haha

P.s you should get a package today

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

Are you the male version of me?

Do you wear womens clothing and drive girl's cars ?

If so, the chances are high...

 

[Gally]

Is the petrol cap on the drivers side mate?

What should be painted/blended is...

Wing, door, sill guard, 1/4 panel. The only miss match would be, Wing to bonnet. There should be no new colour on the back half of the 1/4 panel if they know what they're doing.

You can return it as many times as you want if you're not happy, eventually the assessor will get involved and decide if you have a case.

 

[Ollie82.]

I don't think Ollie worded it correctly although on his side of the repair industry it might be a lot different due to the expense involved.

The 65% threshold is for repair costs vs Pre accident value.

This. Excuse my wording Rob, wasn't aimed directly at you.

We've had a case just today where we have had a 8000 mile 60 plate Honda CRV written off. A car which was 28k new.
Perfectly repairable, as are most things but its a big repair, needing a quarter, sill, pair of doors, pair of airbags, and rear suspension as the car was spun and its clouted a kerb.
Parts alone come in at circa 9k + VAT and the car is valued at circa 19k. The allowed repair total including VAT could not exceed 13k.

Now Honda have a scheme in place that means they can reduce some of the bigger and more expensive parts by as much as nearly 50% in the case where a car is nearly a write off but as soon as the third party heard she was in a like for like courtesy car they immediately killed it.

 

[Gally]

Great post Ollie. Explains it well. Interesting developments in the discounts from dealers I find. I was on a course at the start of 2011 about it and was superb insight.

Recycled parts also of use in todays market. No one really wins out a total loss except the insured on some occasions.

 

[recaro182]

Sadly Ollie that isn't taken into consideration until it's too late in most of our cases. Some of the hire car bills are, as you shockingly high.

Accident management and hire car companies. The true cost of rising premiums.

When some lovely gentleman (c**t) decided to forget to brake into my M6, the terms of the insurance were a like for like replacement. Because this was going to cost the insurer a fair whack, they offered me a £400 lump sum and a VW Golf size car instead. I accepted

 

[Rob]

LOL!

Kev, the petrol cap is on the other side, just phoned them, they'll do it cash but cannot guarantee it'll be a perfect match as it isn't going to be blended in. I said I'd be happier with a perfect cap that isn't a 1000000000% match than I am with a chipped up one!

The guy knew exactly what he was talking about with regards to blending in all new panels.

 

[Gally]

Perfect mate, shame it wasn't on the N/S. Get it done at the same time. 2 minutes paints the fuel flap though.

What you doing about the wheel? Marked?

 

[Slammed172]

In terms of the courtesy car situation, I think if I was hit by a third party and offered like for like then I'd turn it down.
The reason being that the cost per day of you being in that car actually goes on to the costs of the repairs so even if the cost of the damage to your car is below the total loss threshold it can be pushed over by the cost of having the spaffy courtesy car you demanded to have.

Sadly Ollie that isn't taken into consideration until it's too late in most of our cases. Some of the hire car bills are, as you shockingly high.

Accident management and hire car companies. The true cost of rising premiums.

Exactly, and having a hissy fit that the car is a deisel is pathetic hence my customer comment. It seems myself, ollie and gally work in a bodyshop and know this all too well. It's the British, something for nothing attitude.

Anyway, a hire car is from a hire company in which the insurance pays them, and a courtesy car is from the bodyshop in which the bodyshop provide in good faith.

 

[Rob]

Exactly, and having a hissy fit that the car is a deisel is pathetic hence my customer comment. It seems myself, ollie and gally work in a bodyshop and know this all too well. It's the British, something for nothing attitude.

Anyway, a hire car is from a hire company in which the insurance pays them, and a courtesy car is from the bodyshop in which the bodyshop provide in good faith.

Hardly when I'm supposed to be going on holiday in the car... I don't exactly see myself enjoy the roads in the Lakes with 5,000 RPM to play with. If mine's out before the 24th I'll be happy enough.

I can't believe you genuinely think it's a something for nothing attitude though, if I'd smashed my car up, or been in an accident, fair enough... but the car was parked outside a mates house on quiet crescent, there's no way I should suffer because ginger pubes wants to drive like a t**t.

 

[Gally]

Well we we didn't exactly say that to be fair. Rob's only gripe was he was offered like for like, their words not his and he never got that, on reflection he realises that it's not all bad.

 

[Rob]

You put that better than I did. Why use the term like for like then give me a 5dr diesel to be equal to a 2 door, 2 seat petrol?

If they'd said "would you like a high quality rental" then fair enough, but his exact words were "do you require a like for like rental car" to which I said yes and he said OK...