2nd Gear Problem

[Carlos_2017]

Hi all,

Can anyone help me diagnose what's happened to my 2nd gear? The car goes into all other gears fine, pulled away this morning put it into 2nd (was fine) pulled up to a junction then stopped. Pulled away again, 1st was fine, went to go into second and then I physically couldn't get it into gear?! Has anyone else had this problem?
My first thought was linkage maybe, but I'm at work now and can't look until later or maybe even tomorrow

Thanks in advance!

 

[Mr Plums]

My old gearbox started off like this, then eventually it went into second gear really easily but i had no drive, second gear had totally gone kaput.

I doubt its your linkage unless the nut wasnt done tight before and its moved slightly.

 

[imprezaworks]

Definatly check the gear linkage first

 

[Carlos_2017]

My old gearbox started off like this, then eventually it went into second gear really easily but i had no drive, second gear had totally gone kaput.

I doubt its your linkage unless the nut wasnt done tight before and its moved slightly.

Oh great haha! Looks like my bank account could be in a for shock!

 

[Carlos_2017]

Definatly check the gear linkage first

Yeah I'm definitely going to have a look when I get a chance, for now it's just going to be a four speed lol

 

[Mr Plums]

Yeah I'm definitely going to have a look when I get a chance, for now it's just going to be a four speed lol

Hopefully yours isnt that mate, you can pick a working gearbox up off here for £100 so all is not doomed.

 

[Carlos_2017]

Hopefully yours isnt that mate, you can pick a working gearbox up off here for £100 so all is not doomed.

I'll have a look, if I can't resolve it then I'll get a new box. Can you really? I'd had a look about and people are looking for £300+

 

[imprezaworks]

Maybe for an engine not a gearbox

 

[Carlos_2017]

Maybe for an engine not a gearbox

I'm probably looking in the wrong places then haha so I should be looking around the £100 mark?

 

[Carlos_2017]

Worst case scenario

 

[imprezaworks]

About 150 imo

 

[Carlos_2017]

I'm hoping it's the linkage. It'll be a load of agg if it's the box

 

[bloke]

it's internal.

 

[Carlos_2017]

it's internal.

So you reckon it's going to be a new box then?

 

[bloke]

would be surprised if it's not new box time.

 

[Carlos_2017]

would be surprised if it's not new box time.

My favourite

 

[Carlos_2017]

Can anyone of you point me in the right direction for a gearbox at that price?!

I've only seen one near the £150 mark. The rest are all about £300 haha

 

[imprezaworks]

Stick a wanted thread up

 

[Daniel]

Can anyone of you point me in the right direction for a gearbox at that price?!

I've only seen one near the £150 mark. The rest are all about £300 haha

I would personally get your current one rebuilt.
Clio's are known for s**t weak gearboxes so you could buy one that lasts a year or you could buy one that lasts a weekend.

 

[Carlos_2017]

I would personally get your current one rebuilt.
Clio's are known for s**t weak gearboxes so you could buy one that lasts a year or you could buy one that lasts a weekend.

How much roughly would I be looking at for a rebuild?

 

[Daniel]

£300-500 depending what needs replacing.
Plus the labour to take the box out. (£150)
And whilst it's out, fit a new OE clutch. (Valeo, £90)

 

[Carlos_2017]

£300-500 depending what needs replacing.
Plus the labour to take the box out. (£150)
And whilst it's out, fit a new OE clutch. (Valeo, £90)

Oh okay penmouth: I might have to wait a little while then lol

 

[BashRacing]

If doing it yourself risk a used £150 box
if paying labour for fitting it (£150ish) and the car is worth it to you, £700 for a basically new renault box, also as Daniel says a valeo clutch at £60-£70 (ECP with discount code)
http://www.pure-motorsport.co.uk/cl...ditioned-jc5-130-gearbox-genuine-renault.html

I should add that is a 130 box with no speedo drive so if your car is earlier than 2003 ish that won't do, you'll need a 129 box

 

[Carlos_2017]

If doing it yourself risk a used £150 box
if paying labour for fitting it (£150ish) and the car is worth it to you, £700 for a basically new renault box, also as Daniel says a valeo clutch at £60-£70 (ECP with discount code)
http://www.pure-motorsport.co.uk/cl...ditioned-jc5-130-gearbox-genuine-renault.html

I should add that is a 130 box with no speedo drive so if your car is earlier than 2003 ish that won't do, you'll need a 129 box

I'll see what I can do. I was under the impression the 172&182 gearboxes were the same?

 

[BashRacing]

the 129 has a speedo drive sensor down the back of the box next to the diff
the 130 takes it speedo reading from the front left ABS sensor via the ecu

 

[Carlos_2017]

Ah right okay! Thank you! I would have ended up with the wrong one and been asking more questions!

I'm new to the Clio scene. Still a lot for me to learn

 

[NorthloopCup]

Sounds to me like the spring clip in the selector hub has failed and is stopping you selecting a gear.

Easy fix with the box out tbf, but it depends on what you find when you open them up. Search my name and you'll see I know quite a lot about the good old jc5!! Lol

 

[Carlos_2017]

Sounds to me like the spring clip in the selector hub has failed and is stopping you selecting a gear.

Easy fix with the box out tbf, but it depends on what you find when you open them up. Search my name and you'll see I know quite a lot about the good old jc5!! Lol

Oddly, I had a little play about around half hour ago and it goes into gear again, I'll have a look at a more convenient time.

Thanks to everyone who has been helping me indetify my problems, and apologies for being such a simpleton

 

[imprezaworks]

Far from simpleton mate. If you don't ask you won't know.

 

[Carlos_2017]

Far from simpleton mate. If you don't ask you won't know.

This is very true lol

 

[NorthloopCup]

Oddly, I had a little play about around half hour ago and it goes into gear again, I'll have a look at a more convenient time.

Thanks to everyone who has been helping me indetify my problems, and apologies for being such a simpleton

Great news mate! At least you can drive it again without skipping a gear!

As others have said, no need to apologise! And trust me, others have asked things that are far simpler than a gear selection issue! Lol!

 

[imprezaworks]

How you getting on

 

[hipwell]

A few years ago my 182 box got stuck in 5th.

Got under the car and the selector was stuck up or down (Can't remember where 5th is)

I had to prize it down with a bar, tapped it up again with a hammer and all was good again until I flogged it a few years later. No idea what happened, but hopefully yours will be the same

 

[bloke]

A few years ago my 182 box got stuck in 5th.

i've got a 182 box here that's stuck in 6th !!!!!!!!

 

[Carlos_2017]

A few years ago my 182 box got stuck in 5th.

Got under the car and the selector was stuck up or down (Can't remember where 5th is)

I had to prize it down with a bar, tapped it up again with a hammer and all was good again until I flogged it a few years later. No idea what happened, but hopefully yours will be the same

Mine is working again, for now, but god knows how long for!! Lol

Hopefully it lasts long enough for me to get the poor old thing looking good again!

Thanks anyway dude!!

 

[hipwell]

i've got a 182 box here that's stuck in 6th !!!!!!!!

Not sure I understand, Or are you taking the Michael?

It did genuinely happen lol, AA toed me home so I could prepare to get the box off so thought I'd got nothing to loose messing with a hammer and it sorted it.

 

[bloke]

Not sure I understand, Or are you taking the Michael?

It did genuinely happen lol, AA toed me home so I could prepare to get the box off so thought I'd got nothing to loose messing with a hammer and it sorted it.

nope, driver was giving it stick and went for 6th and managed to sort of find it even though it's not there. selector in the box has jumped out and stuck between gears.

 

[JamesBryan]

nope, driver was giving it stick and went for 6th and managed to sort of find it even though it's not there. selector in the box has jumped out and stuck between gears.

quality

 

[bloke]

quality

it's the second box he's killed as well!! this one was when he was on the way home after buying it.

 

[JamesBryan]

it's the second box he's killed as well!! this one was when he was on the way home after buying it.

Sounds like he's going to be a regular.