Yer, plus a long wait for delivery. eBay was cheaper and got it delivered very quickly.
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Rojer's 200T
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Yer, plus a long wait for delivery. eBay was cheaper and got it delivered very quickly.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Just an idea for @Sash if that ebay place is out of stock.
Autodoc are pretty good now, usually only 4-5 days delivery for me.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Did a buy from AutoDoc £66.44 delivered. Not bad to be fair, now hoping it arrives un damaged!
I had a Valeo condenser and radiator from them not too long ago and they were very well packaged.
It's been one of those days. Started full of hope, but the Clio loves to piss on it.
Took it to get it's AC refilled. Told it was all good no leaks. I get in and its roasting hot, go back to the garage, they test it and its hot. Plug it in and no codes. It has gas in it still and they are adamant it was working. Get it home to test the compressor and can hear/feel/see it working. Can also see the clutch engage but still hot. Check the bottom pipe and it looks like it has a pin hole leak. Not sure if that is enough for it not to work, but I will replace it and go from there. The top pipe is cold though so it must be doing something and I can see pressure in the system.
Whilst I was messing around I noticed the undertray was wet so pulled it off to find a nice gearbox leak. Traced it back to the fill plug.
Cleaned it all up and managed to get another quarter turn on the plug at least. Took it for a drive and its now bone dry so that's sorted. I seem to have 3 different part numbers for the AC line so if anyone could confirm or offer any advice on why it might not be working that would help.
I know @charltjr fitted a new flap motor and every time i get in the car I can hear it clicking. Not sure if this is normal @Adey. @Sash if not is there a certain process to fit it, or does it have to go in a certain position?
Took it to get it's AC refilled. Told it was all good no leaks. I get in and its roasting hot, go back to the garage, they test it and its hot. Plug it in and no codes. It has gas in it still and they are adamant it was working. Get it home to test the compressor and can hear/feel/see it working. Can also see the clutch engage but still hot. Check the bottom pipe and it looks like it has a pin hole leak. Not sure if that is enough for it not to work, but I will replace it and go from there. The top pipe is cold though so it must be doing something and I can see pressure in the system.
Whilst I was messing around I noticed the undertray was wet so pulled it off to find a nice gearbox leak. Traced it back to the fill plug.
Cleaned it all up and managed to get another quarter turn on the plug at least. Took it for a drive and its now bone dry so that's sorted. I seem to have 3 different part numbers for the AC line so if anyone could confirm or offer any advice on why it might not be working that would help.
I know @charltjr fitted a new flap motor and every time i get in the car I can hear it clicking. Not sure if this is normal @Adey. @Sash if not is there a certain process to fit it, or does it have to go in a certain position?
The leak is very small and slow, so I don't expect that to stop the whole system from working. I think it's possibly the flap motor
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
I will have a look tomorrow for you on parts link to confirm the part number for your car mate. I only need the reg to do I which I have
charltjr
ClioSport Club Member
The leak is very small and slow, so I don't expect that to stop the whole system from working. I think it's possibly the flap motor
Looks like there are two flap motors, because of course there are. The one I replaced controls air direction and looks like this:
Heater blend door actuator 277429948R
But there is also this one
Which has different OE part numbers
With the advent of AI slop it’s a bugger to find anything really useful, but it looks like that second motor has something to do with temperature control.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
If the AC system is leaking there’s no way it’ll be holding at 22 bar.The leak is very small and slow, so I don't expect that to stop the whole system from working. I think it's possibly the flap motor
Have you got any pictures? Where’s your ‘leak’ on the system in terms of schematically?
If it had a leak, most systems would cut out on low pressure, compressor wouldn’t turn on etc.
Touring_Rob
ClioSport Club Member
He's just had it filled up, if its a small leak it will hold decent pressure for quite some time. One of my cars had a small leak and the AC would work for most of summer.
@Rojer is it worth doing a fluid level check on gearbox? Looked like a fair amount of fluid and I can imagine these gearboxes are a bit fussy over levels.
As for AC - you're probably right about the flap however some cars have a coolant bypass valve for the heater, this could be the blend flap on yours? But on other cars they have a solenoid to fully bypass the hot coolant going through the cabin heater core - if thats stuck the AC won't be cooling anything.
Edit - seems your system just has a flap and an expansion valve. If the compressor is spinning, and the flap is working then I would suspect the expansion valve which is solenoid controlled.
@Rojer is it worth doing a fluid level check on gearbox? Looked like a fair amount of fluid and I can imagine these gearboxes are a bit fussy over levels.
As for AC - you're probably right about the flap however some cars have a coolant bypass valve for the heater, this could be the blend flap on yours? But on other cars they have a solenoid to fully bypass the hot coolant going through the cabin heater core - if thats stuck the AC won't be cooling anything.
Edit - seems your system just has a flap and an expansion valve. If the compressor is spinning, and the flap is working then I would suspect the expansion valve which is solenoid controlled.
Its the pipe at the bottom of the condenser.
Looking at the diagram, its showing this.
10 and 9 are the same, but different part numbers and it matches what @charltjr replaced. 5 and 12 also have the same part number so maybe there are two of them. Number 11 is the blower resistor and the fan speed works fine so doubt its related. I will have to attack the dash later and see what I can find. @Touring_Rob any idea where the expansion valve could be?
@charltjr When i search the part numbers you gave for the other actuator, it seems to come up with this one 277322711R and shows it as 15 on this diagram.
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Just ordered an OE Denso 277322711R for £17 on Ebay, seeing as it's called the AC actuator flap, I reckon that's what the clicking/problem is so worth replacing is as it so cheap.
Touring_Rob
ClioSport Club Member
Expansion valve will be under the bonnet in the ac hairline
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Just had a look mate
So
3 and 5 on the screen shot are a definite no go as they are for left hand drive models.
1,2 and 4 left over and the difference between 2 and 3 is the type of gas used. If you check under your bonnet there will be a sticker and fingers crossed it's 2,to make it easier.
What I can't understand is the difference between 1 and 4 as they use the same gas and there's no obvious difference to what I can see.
So
3 and 5 on the screen shot are a definite no go as they are for left hand drive models.
1,2 and 4 left over and the difference between 2 and 3 is the type of gas used. If you check under your bonnet there will be a sticker and fingers crossed it's 2,to make it easier.
What I can't understand is the difference between 1 and 4 as they use the same gas and there's no obvious difference to what I can see.
dann2707
ClioSport Club Member
Mega, and no problem
Just edited my post, it could be 1 or 4 but I think the only way to really find out is call Renault and see what they say.
charltjr
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charltjr
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Willo40
ClioSport Club Member
M135i
Be surprised if a decent local hydraulic company couldn't fix or remake your damaged pipe cheaper mate.
JamesBryan
ClioSport Club Member
Pirtek might be able to make one up.
