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clioproj/skylinegtst/merc
no they look the same but the pcd is about 10mm smaller on the 1.2 boxs and has the bottom of the bellhousing lobbed off . think the 1.4 is the same as 1.2 but not sure anything above that is the same laguna /extra/r5/megane/etc . for example a 1.2 box doesnt fit a 1.8 16v viceversa
the 1.2 boxes do fit. Ive had one fitted to mine before. but the bottom of the bell housing doesnt meet, so its only held on by 8 bolts.
the only ones that wont fit are the 1.2 diets as the starter is on the front.
the only ones that wont fit are the 1.2 diets as the starter is on the front.
1.4, 1.2, 2.0, megane boxes but you need the mounts too.
Diesel is a JC5 box with very different ratios to the petrols, go for another diesel box or a valver or williams, 1.2/1.4 etc won't fit i don't thinkcan i fit any other box to my diesel 1.9?
Most derv boxes are JB3
clioproj/skylinegtst/merc
ah right i i dont think ive seen another 1.2 thats not diet engine? i even the latest clio has the starter at the front
yea the ph3 has the diet, whereas the earlier ph1/2 clios have a version of the energy lump.
clioproj/skylinegtst/merc
ah right havent had a look round anything that new that closely
JB1/3 and JC5 all go, apart from some variants of the jb1 that are fitted to the diet engine.
What the problem is: I think i am go to fit a R19 DT lump in to my clio(if it fits), now im told the derv gearboxes are well..pants so wonderd if i could put a better box in...may be a valver one, hopeing it would make a diffrance. so what one would fit please and will it make any diffrance?
What the problem is: I think i am go to fit a R19 DT lump in to my clio(if it fits), now im told the derv gearboxes are well..pants so wonderd if i could put a better box in...may be a valver one, hopeing it would make a diffrance. so what one would fit please and will it make any diffrance?
Derv often have the strongest boxes in them ie JC3 for the torque only the williams got a 5 spec box the Valver used a 3 type box the 1.2 and 1.4 use the 1 series box.
Probably wont cope with the torque. the derv boxes are good enough.
all the splines on the input shafts are the same, but its the diameter of the clutch and the diaphragm (sp) plate that make the fitment undure to fit. The 172 clutches are different to the valver ones, im undure how the clutch looks/size is on the derv having never fitted one!
right just did a little research as its late and tbh i really cant be arsed to do much...
the 1.4 and derv clutches on a 19 are the same, so iirc the clutch from a 1.816 will fit a 1.4, but like i said, its late and i cant really remember much of what i did tonight, letalone what fits what.
the 1.4 and derv clutches on a 19 are the same, so iirc the clutch from a 1.816 will fit a 1.4, but like i said, its late and i cant really remember much of what i did tonight, letalone what fits what.
Thanks for your input mate...so it may fit then
yea, however did a bit more research and the td lump fits
172 sport/Clio 16v T
Would a 1.9 diesel box be any good on a valver turbo or are the ratios to tall?? Guessing it could more than handle the torque of a 16v turbo
i ran a td box on my valver, 1st, 2nd, are the same, 3rd is slightly taller, 4th is good for 140mph, 5th good to hit the milage reset lol
172 sport/Clio 16v T
And are they stonger than the valver box as i here they are sh*t for handling power/torque
mine lasted quite well, well, longest box ive ever had anyway! but yea they cope with torque well, but dont go trashing it thorugh the gears!
172 sport/Clio 16v T
Its gonna be in my turbo'd 16v do ya think that would be the box or the 5 GTT box??
172 sport/Clio 16v T
The olny prob with the gtt box is the speedo sensor i think!
Diesel boxes are the strongest boxes realy bar the willaims one realy infact there a lot of diesel box parts used in the construction of the williams box sine it was the strongest of the range as such.
a ph2 19 1.9d.
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titch
iv got a valver an i broke a sellctor fork in the box wen i was looking for a new box i was woried buy the price but i stiped it an rebiult the old box and it only cost me £40 for an new fork and some other bits so i dont mined if it goes agen :lolup:
172 sport/Clio 16v T
Will a 1.9 diesel gearbox off a s reg renault extra van fit a 16v??
No to 7t6 and yes to big dog
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