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172 C.U.P. (Complete and Utter Poo)



Polynesian

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina B3, 172, 325i
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Major progress (to me at least). The engine bay looks so much better.
As ever a few challenges so I’ll post later with a couple of questions, grateful for any help CS peeps.
For now, how much better does this look- fresh coolant bottle, hoses, a radiator that’s a rectangle? Brilliant!
 

Polynesian

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina B3, 172, 325i
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Ok, so a bit more detail:

Replaced all coolant hoses with MTC silicon hoses and stainless hi grip clamps. The two narrow bore hoses that link to the heater are poorly specified vs factory hoses as they T pieces that connect them are too long. Took off enough from each to make them fit properly. Fitted. New coolant header tank.

Fitted a new Nissens radiator and A/C rad and drier. I used new seals with a little PAG oil on them for the A/c connections and put 30ml of PAG oil into the condenser and 10ml into the drier. New rubber bumpers on the bottom of the rad. Cleaned and reused my existing fan.

Anywhere I saw rust I rubbed it down and treated it.

50/50 Renault D coolant and distilled water mix. Bled the system which took a while, eventually when the fan kicked in the coolant burped in the tank and the level settled. I’ll keep an eye on it but I was really careful with the bleeding and I think it’s all good.

Here’s where I need some help:

Vibratechnics gearbox mount. Honestly, I don’t know how people have the cheek to sell expensive parts that simply don’t fit. There are quite a few threads (now that I’m looking) about this on CS. The mount does not fit. The central spindle doesn’t slip through the centre of the vibratechnics mount. And, the new mount requires that you use their new longer bolts to either side. That means removing the plate that the mount sits in your takeout the Renault bolts. That would have been ok, but when removing it I sheared one of the two bolts that hold it to the body. Super fucked off about that. I think I have enough thread showing that I will be able to get out, but again a quick job becomes a ball ache. I would not recommend the vibratechnics gearbox mount, and I haven’t even driven the car with it yet. I mean, I can’t.

Second thing: I noticed a small electrical connector that has a missing wire. Can anyone identify it? For some reason CS posts my photos above the text, so the picture will be back at the top of the post. Thanks if you know what it is/ what I can do about it.

It does feel good to have a clean new cooling system and to be able to gas and use a/c now! One more step forwards. Some manly pics to follow to show what a state it was in when I started in this job!
 

Polynesian

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina B3, 172, 325i
I also replaced the bonnet release, and used new stainless fittings where appropriate. Just trying to neaten it up and extend its life properly!
Looks at the state of that rad. The condenser had dragged through it and was hanging completely out of place. No wonder it lost the gas…

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hopgop1

ClioSport Club Member
View attachment 1775675View attachment 1775676Ok, so a bit more detail:

Replaced all coolant hoses with MTC silicon hoses and stainless hi grip clamps. The two narrow bore hoses that link to the heater are poorly specified vs factory hoses as they T pieces that connect them are too long. Took off enough from each to make them fit properly. Fitted. New coolant header tank.

Fitted a new Nissens radiator and A/C rad and drier. I used new seals with a little PAG oil on them for the A/c connections and put 30ml of PAG oil into the condenser and 10ml into the drier. New rubber bumpers on the bottom of the rad. Cleaned and reused my existing fan.

Anywhere I saw rust I rubbed it down and treated it.

50/50 Renault D coolant and distilled water mix. Bled the system which took a while, eventually when the fan kicked in the coolant burped in the tank and the level settled. I’ll keep an eye on it but I was really careful with the bleeding and I think it’s all good.

Here’s where I need some help:

Vibratechnics gearbox mount. Honestly, I don’t know how people have the cheek to sell expensive parts that simply don’t fit. There are quite a few threads (now that I’m looking) about this on CS. The mount does not fit. The central spindle doesn’t slip through the centre of the vibratechnics mount. And, the new mount requires that you use their new longer bolts to either side. That means removing the plate that the mount sits in your takeout the Renault bolts. That would have been ok, but when removing it I sheared one of the two bolts that hold it to the body. Super fucked off about that. I think I have enough thread showing that I will be able to get out, but again a quick job becomes a ball ache. I would not recommend the vibratechnics gearbox mount, and I haven’t even driven the car with it yet. I mean, I can’t.

Second thing: I noticed a small electrical connector that has a missing wire. Can anyone identify it? For some reason CS posts my photos above the text, so the picture will be back at the top of the post. Thanks if you know what it is/ what I can do about it.

It does feel good to have a clean new cooling system and to be able to gas and use a/c now! One more step forwards. Some manly pics to follow to show what a state it was in when I started in this job!
From memory, I'm sure that missing wire is how it's supposed to be, as weird as that sounds.
 

Polynesian

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina B3, 172, 325i
How did you find the heater matrix pipe replacement?
The original clips are really difficult to release. I used pliers designed for electrical connectors, and just released the tension in the clips and gradually wiggled them off. A bit of silicon spray under the original hose helped.

The main issue is, if you’re replacing with silicon hoses, trimming the connection between the two heater matrix hoses so they fit. I trimmed the T pieces between them and also one end, to level them up.
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Brigsy

ClioSport Club Member
  T.Turbo
Fuel line pliers work well for releasing the heater hose fittings. Mine were a nightmare as leaked when removed/refitted, i ended up changing the o rings to get a good seal.
 

Polynesian

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina B3, 172, 325i
Right, he said he may have some.

Cheers- that’s a big help!
 

Polynesian

ClioSport Club Member
  Alpina B3, 172, 325i
The car didn’t start very easily for the coolant bleed, and now won’t start at all. It turns over fine. As I cleaned down some of the filthiest filth from the block when I had the rad out I’m guessing it’s mostly to be the crank position sensor a bit moist? Will be able to get my hands down there to unclip and spray with electrical connector cleaner, without removing a load of parts?
Hoping it’s going to be this easy…
 

Matt Cup

ClioSport Club Member
  Leon Cupra, 172 Cup
The car didn’t start very easily for the coolant bleed, and now won’t start at all. It turns over fine. As I cleaned down some of the filthiest filth from the block when I had the rad out I’m guessing it’s mostly to be the crank position sensor a bit moist? Will be able to get my hands down there to unclip and spray with electrical connector cleaner, without removing a load of parts?
Hoping it’s going to be this easy…

Just remove the airbox, that’ll give you plenty of space to get to the cps.
 


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