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Not really comparable to a 172. There is ten years and £17,000 between them. I'd rather the ST as a daily, in fact I'm considering one, but I love my Clio for track and messing about with.

it seems to be done quite a lot. I don't think anybody would really know until they have a big shunt how well it would hold up. Renault use harnesses in the 275 Trophy R without a cage and that passes tests etc so surely it isn't essential. Longer term plan is to get a cage.

Bit of a bump here but I am thinking of having a bar welded in with spreader plate like the picture Sam posted. Would 100 x 100 mm 3mm steel plates with standard roll cage tubing welded in by a proper welder be safe and sufficient to mount harnesses?

@JamesBryan you fancy it? Providing we can fix my car tomorrow?

I'm up for it, once I've fixed the car.

What's the monthly payment on one of these if you don't mind me asking. I'll be getting a new daily early next year and the 1 series is around the top of my list.

1.2 16v Extreme 4 Ph1 172 182 FF Ph1 172. My current ph1 is just a track hack which I run alongside a daily diesel Ibiza.

Greenlight did it for me @Jonff

I replaced my 182 with a Seat Ibiza FR TDI due to the moon mileage I do, I now run a ph1 172 track car along side it. I wouldn't go back to a Clio as a daily though, there are so many better cars for a daily hack. They're brilliant on track though for how little they cost.

Great all rounders. Has it has the compression test and the rear subframe checked?

I miss my MX5 for roof down winter drives. I need to get insured on my Grandad's MR2.

I love this car. Great buy.

Looks a decent range of cars there. I can't wait to get back on Oulton next year.

Did you enjoy it? How was the car on the circuit?

They're a guilty pleasure of mine too. Almost got one five years ago but I got an insurance quote I could afford on a ph1 172 so got one instead.

Utterly pointless. Just buy a Renaultsport, they cost less to buy than the cams, fitting and mapping on the 1.4.

+1 They were great on track, sidewalls didn't deform at all. Craig even commented on how good they were.

How fast are these? Do they handle nicely? An old member on here had a 370Z and rated it very highly.

The diff will make it amazing. It's one thing the car lacks out of the box for track. I'd never noticed how much it would benefit from a diff from road driving alone.

I'll probably book the morning track day then I can spend the afternoon drinking. Sounds like a winner to me.

Since the last update I've had the following work carried out; All brakes fitted so DS2500's up front, Brembo HC disks, braided lines and Dot 4.1 fluid Inner and outer ARB bushes Steering rack bushes N/S tie rod and track rod end Coilovers properly setup. The car has been to BTM twice and is now...

I'm up for that. @Niall97 @JamesBryan ???

I like it, obviously a Defender is better but its the V8 off the car bucket list.

Seems pointless to me. Just buy a Megane R26, map it and get decent coilovers if you want to go fast on track. If you want to just have fun on track nothing wrong with Clio with a bit of weight reduction, properly setup coilovers, decent brakes and track focused rubber. My Clio weights 989 kg...

No @couzens ? Not happy about that lad.

Get something other than a Clio. They're great fun but I wouldn't want two. 197 money would get you into an S2000, MX5 etc.

I'd be up for that.

I've had three now. A ph1 172 first, a 182 then another ph1 172. There is just something about them that makes me want another if I don't own one. My current ph1 is only a track/weekend car. I couldn't handle one for my daily anymore, not for 25k a year. Great cars, my current one is a...

I'm surprised nobody had a word with him when he was in the pits. If I was driving the Meg or one of the other cars I'd of gone and asked him why he was driving in such a manner on a track day, and reported his driving to the organisers before he ended up causing an accident, which apparently...

My 172 has the alloy bonnet, as my first one did. They're so light you almost throw it up when you lift it up, ridiculously light they are. I believe it was mainly the W plate ones that had the alloy bonnet, should be able to grab one second hand.