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You obviously havent raced a 172/182 with a decent driver becuase theres nothing in it

Dont then, bye

Liam whats happening with your yellow Vee?

The V6 255 is a bit faster, although the Mk1 V6 has very similar 0-100 times to 172/182 Also 182 is half the price of a V6

Driving on a twisty road is down to driver skill and who is the most daring. In a straight line below 100mph std v std there is nothing in it

agree a CTR and a 182 should be neck and neck

No its not its 194bhp, Renault quote figures in hp (not BHP) which is the same as PS

You are possible the most argumentative person on this forum, everytime I read one of your posts its basically about the 172/182 or commenting on what someone has said about the 182 Back on topic it was a 2000 Vectra so isn’t going to be a VXR. The new Vectra VXR has about 260bhp and a Audi...

yes they are lighter but the interior isnt as nice

There is very little in it between all the Renaultsport Clios

Lets hope they are ok, doesnt sound good though

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The 182 cup has air con

All things equal the 182cup will be marginally quicker. Im talking a tenth/couple of tenths to 100mph as it only weighs 20kg less, giving the cup a power to weight advantage over the full fat 182 of about 3bhp per tonne. However variables such as the amount of fuel in the car, weight of the...

Roy it always happens, one thing is mentioned (i,e performance) and then people mention something else (i.e better build). I own a 182 and can admit the 197 is a better car so why cant the 197 fans admit the 182 is faster.

Blaze the 182 is significantly faster than the 197 in a straight line. nearly 2 secs to 100. overall though the 197 is a better car (it should be for £17.5k when its specced up), I think the 197 would be quicker round a track but it will be close, it will be interesting to see how it fairs...

Agree the 197 better but disagree on the engine. At least the 182 has some urge in it

Overall though its a much better car

We all know the 182 is a quicker car in a straight line

I think people go for the 182 over the 172cup for the extra toys

at 70mph in 6th in the 197 the revs are very similar to the 182 at 70mph in 5th gear. Also I forgot to mention in my original post that i test drove the car at Ezra Sudgen dealer in Worksop, Notts. The salesman was called Guy and the service he offered was excellent he really knew is stuff...

Have you driven one? If not go and drive one it is an awesome car. Now if only it had the meg 225 engine, now that would be worth 17k!

Yes the sterring is very light and gives little feedback, it sort of reminds me of my mums 1.0l corsa. When i was driving the 197 I thought it was quick and so did the girlfriend, but when I got back in the 182 I put my foot down and she nearly s**t herself (shes not to keen on going that fast)...

its quite lot different to the 182, hope you enjoy it

Went for a test drive today of a black 197. Overall I thought it was a fantastic car, better looking, more comfortable, seats were very good, better built, exhaust note sounded better, nicer to drive and more refined than the 182. My only concerns were that yes it was quick but i didnt...

Mine did too and I didnt even enter the site. Our It dept came to see me about it!

Agree totally, the differences between 172/172 cup in terms of handling/performance are so minimal. The same applies to 182/182 with cup bits/182cup/182 trophy

^^ as above Renault claim 134, Autocar only got 131mph out of it

half leather Xenons headlights Alloys Alarm Climate control auto headlights auto wipers trip computer cd player To name a few

The road test of 6.3 was deffo for the full fat, but if the full fat can do it in 6.3 then so can the cup.