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I went from 172 Cup to 330ci. I remember testing the 330 and then getting back in the Clio and thinking, $hit! I knew then that I'd had enough of the basic spec, as fun as it was. So it depends on what you are looking for - basic fun or luxury with an element of the fun, as the 330 is pretty...

Yes. All of them.

Oh. Did I get owned?

So what does "owned" mean to you? Just so I get what you mean. LOL.

Awesome.

And 230bhp. Power to weight will be similar. RWD. There can't be much between them. Neither would get owned.

BS. Fact.

Neither are Clios.

And oil. I'd give it to the RX8 but not by much. Better traction?

I think he invented cars, so he knows.

Interesting. 28 is still pretty poor imo. (You may have gathered that I hate spending money on fuel)

True but the point is it is a lot worse than the 172/182's on fuel - some people may not know this. I wouldn't buy that car for the mpg.

I wouldn't pay that for insurance but it's your money. Prepare to fork out for fuel but I'm sure you'll love the 197.

Might not be what you want to do but how about some weight saving? You'll gain some power to weight that way and it should feel a bit keener right through...

Please...

If it's not under 5 seconds, it's slow. How do you drive at 0?

Doesn't stop you though.

All from a remap? So 50 odd bhp increase?

Big wowzers Gerry.

Too many c***s really.

Oh. Well done. Proved nothing though other than people not agreeing with you.

ST is not.

Always fancied one. Makes sense really.

Huh?

It was always going to go this way. Still, it makes for some entertainment. Five second Polos are where its at - I know where my money is going next. Almost as good as the the VXR video on youtube claiming his standard Astra does 0-100mph in 12 seconds. Very standard.

Not denying there are some quick cars but I'm not seeing any Polo's with a simple remap getting 5 secs flat 0-60's.

Indeed.

Yes, this takes the biscuit. And youtube proves it!

Love this thread. Anyone timing their cars from video and using the needle to 'guess' the speed need to recognise. And why does the damn 106 GTi always come into the chat?

Never seen a better looking Vee.