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Here we go... Not sure that's going to stand, on this here forum. 182's are probably the worst of all the sports to make their power and the Ph1 is a fair bit lighter, so I don't think you are correct. In reality, there ain't going to be enough of a difference to notice, so it comes down to...

Nice vid and a great circuit - my fav on GT. Mini = girls car. Stay off the track!

Widen your horizons...?! Nothing else out there you'd like?

That's fair enough but it depends how much you are forking out for the pleasure. Student days have changed...

Sense! Whether you can afford insurance at 17 or not, it's not worth it.

120 miles per day?! That's a fair commute, imo.

Sounds like you need a diesel for your mileage but I wouldn't go for a Clio.

Very true but it doesn't mean they couldn't either. Put it this way, Rossi could make a living in some sort of driving that involes four wheels, F1 or otherwise. And I reckon if he put a year of testing in, he'd be as quick as the slower guys in F1. He is clearly a racing genius and many F1...

Who gives a f**k? The point is, Rossi is an extremely talented driver, on two wheels or four. I'm pretty certain he could make the jump to F1 if he devoted all his time to it. Whether he'd be successful against the current F1 drivers, nobody really knows.

That might work, tbh. Actually, yes.

If you could render the front end, so as to be attractive to people who can see, it'd be sweeter! Nice effort all the same.

You know that special Civic Type R that costs nigh on 30 grand? 240hp and lots of uprated stuff. It looks amazing and apparently performs amazingly, but at that price... If there was a Clio equivalent only not at the same price tag, that would be nice. A nice hike in power and some special kit.

Would be nice if they went down the Mugen Civic type deal, only not the price tag! That is a special car and deserves an 'R' on it, maybe even two!

Wayyy too low. The wheels look wrong in the arch.

So you were one of 'them'. As previously said, there is sod all difference in a straight line.

You're right, there is not much between them in a straight line. IMO, if the Clio makes no mistakes with the gears, it will be quicker.

You may be right, I wasn't sure if the badge covered both engines. They're not slow, it's just a gutless engine. My mate had the Corolla 190 and it had nothing until 6800rpm. Sod all torque at any revs. Your mate must have been giving it some proper stick to blow it up! Are they not quite...

Depends what version it is, 140 or 190. The 190 is of similar pace to the 172 but a modded 172 should see it off.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=472767&page=2

£200 is quite cheap and you should see maybe 20+ bhp increase. The torque is where the bigger gain is had. Depends on the map I guess.

Depends on what you like to spend your money on. I prefer not to be taken from behind by the Government everytime I fill up with fuel.

It does, partly. 0-60/100 and in-gear times would be more interesting. Top speed isn't such a big deal but is quite impressive on the V6, by all accounts.

In what way?

So as good as a 197/200, not that that's difficult. Very decent MPG for the power.

At least JayR didn't go for the big bs title..."200 kills F1 kitted Porsche GT3 Quad Turbo at N'ring!"

Nice car! The new Focus range looks really good. What kind of MPG does it get? I think I might be tempted by one of these after the derv, unless they bring out a hot diesel by then!

The V6 certainly sounds the best but is it faster than the R26R? Mad?...it's got ABS though! Oh dear! Or are you only winning like £15k or something?

It's called reading.

There are clearly soft drinks in there...V6 drivers, eh?!

This is funny. On handling, you say that they are both equally rewarding because you know that 1*2's can out handle them in certain scenarios. If you are going on what is more 'rewarding' then both are rewarding on 0-60, top end, anything. It depends what you want and what you get from a car...