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WTF has this ownership bs got to do with the thread title? (As interesting as it is)

That's the thing I hated about my 172...it was always cold. I'm not sure why Renault removed the heating in all their cars after the Williams.

This thread is no different to all "which is best" threads And I'm not sure how the Williams' drivers are "not biased" but just honest?! That's funny!

I tried a few golfs before the Ibiza. I was impressed with quality and sound deadening compared to the Seat but prefered the performance on the Ibiza. I really wanted a 170 GT TDi but they are a bit overpriced. Nice Golf!

Nippy means cold, not quick or fast.

Make me laugh when you see idiots bouncing about on flat roads because there is basically only the tyre giving any sort of suspension. Then they come to a speed bump and it's like trying to ascent Everest! I once overtook a Skyline in my Clio because he was edging over each speed bump and...

Knew you'd come round!

It's more fun letting the 1.2's etc beat you. They go home thinking their car is special and that they are a hero and you go home with a clean license, knowing you made someone feel proud and impressed with their new, higher powered 1.23 Corsa/Micra etc... "...must have an induction kit or...

that's bloody pointless and looks gash!

I laughed at "only £1995" for insurance too. Still, if you've got the cash... Good luck with the conversion. I reckon that insurance will be required shortly, and all to beat a Vectra in a straight line!

Have Renault unleashed a batch of new (old) Cups recently? Everyone seems to be purchasing them just now! Welcome and great choice in Clio!

A 172 Cup G meter = death to all Cups!

Another dull thread, slowly getting duller!

The front end? Still very ugly!

Pretty much when you are on the 'ring.

Indeed. As good as the 200 is, the Porsche driver is clearly not all that.

The Cup was also a bit cheaper, which may have swayed a few people. Did for me. You can't argue with having a lighter version of a car to sharpen it up.

I think you hit all the main points - they are good fun, fairly chaep to run but not that great in terms of ownership. Saying that, I never had any major issues with mine.

Good choice of car!

Wow!

This has now turned into the poll thread.

They are all the best. Buy them all.

It's only a car.

Depends on what you want. The Clio is a bit more fun and is very different to drive compared with the diesel but the Ibiza sounds more suited to what your daily commute involves. Running costs are cheaper on the Ibiza, better mpg (I just drove back from Glasvegas and averaged 54mpg, although...

Some things are indisputable. SUBO would be second.

Other than arranging a group test of all the mentioned cars and driving them all before voting, how else do you propose people vote? Most people will not get a chance to buy/try them all so they'll go for the car they've owned or own.

This

You guys should try getting laid. Much more fun!

LOL at this thread!

Usual dribble from you...