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    Instead of turbo price difference advantages + disadvantag

    this is interesting ... ok... Supercharging and turbocharing is effectively one and the same !.. the source of power is different only. you still need lower comp - preferably forged pistons... Now for bodies... You need, as do the above.. an independent engine management computer at...
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    Instead of turbo price difference advantages + disadvantag

    I Forgot to add the other tangible benefits of tbs .. ok... you WILL get INSTANT response from yer lump... it is very noticable when compared to an injected - especially fly by wire) system.. the increase in breathability of the simple airpump (read engine) is enhanced.. showing...
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    okay, how much do you think this will cost me

    Hi Faceman.. why do you want to paint a black thingymajig.. errrrr... black ?? Joe.....
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    Instead of turbo price difference advantages + disadvantag

    this is interesting ... ok... Supercharging and turbocharing is effectively one and the same !.. the source of power is different only. you still need lower comp - preferably forged pistons... Now for bodies... You need, as do the above.. an independent engine management computer at...
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    172 supercharger no // turbo YES.. heres why !

    thanks M8, have had long chats with Andy today.. very useful chat and a great guy ! Joe
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    172 supercharger no // turbo YES.. heres why !

    thanks M8, have had long chats with Andy today.. very useful chat and a great guy ! Joe
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    ok, heres what I mean by direct drive.. at the moment, the ecu controls the position of the throttlebody butterfly plate by driving a stepper motor.. it computes this from the position of the throttle pedal and the load. what we do is... (this is only to use with an aftermarket engine...
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    IMPORTANT - How 2 Brake Properly!!!

    Hi Mav.. brakes only work well within given parametres.. thats why the formula1 guys still come off at certain corners and lock and slide occasionaly. try not to use the box to slow the car.. if you are having contrl problems you are probably exceding the design limits.. ie.. no car...
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    oh, re the original inlet manifold.. no, it would interfere with the outlet pipe of the turbo. also, do you have left hand drive or right hand drive in HK ??.. left hand drive would be an easier conversion as the brake master cylinder res is out of the way for the down pipe. on a rhd...
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    ok, heres what I mean by direct drive.. at the moment, the ecu controls the position of the throttlebody butterfly plate by driving a stepper motor.. it computes this from the position of the throttle pedal and the load. what we do is... (this is only to use with an aftermarket engine...
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    cyl 4 - gearbox end. if using the emerald, I would convert to direct drive.. not cable.. ie, I would drive the throttle body motor (a stepper I believe) from the pedal input.. the original ecu would think it had control over the throttle body motor, but it would be disconnected. a...
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    Hi Ben m8 (this is the reply I sent you via email) The important bits are.. exhaust manifold and turbo, inlet manifold and boost aware map sensor (ps, the turbo is the excellent Mitsubishi TD04 -10) water cooled too. compressor can be uprated if required. I would use the...
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    IMPORTANT - How 2 Brake Properly!!!

    Hi Mav.. brakes only work well within given parametres.. thats why the formula1 guys still come off at certain corners and lock and slide occasionaly. try not to use the box to slow the car.. if you are having contrl problems you are probably exceding the design limits.. ie.. no car...
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    oh, re the original inlet manifold.. no, it would interfere with the outlet pipe of the turbo. also, do you have left hand drive or right hand drive in HK ??.. left hand drive would be an easier conversion as the brake master cylinder res is out of the way for the down pipe. on a rhd...
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    cyl 4 - gearbox end. if using the emerald, I would convert to direct drive.. not cable.. ie, I would drive the throttle body motor (a stepper I believe) from the pedal input.. the original ecu would think it had control over the throttle body motor, but it would be disconnected. a...
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    FAO!!!!! - EL CAPPY TAN SLARTY

    Hi Ben m8 (this is the reply I sent you via email) The important bits are.. exhaust manifold and turbo, inlet manifold and boost aware map sensor (ps, the turbo is the excellent Mitsubishi TD04 -10) water cooled too. compressor can be uprated if required. I would use the...
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    Can you imagine what a turbo 172 would be like

    no way doood.. thats where (in my opinion) you are totally wrong. wheel spin is simple.. it caused by a LOSS of TRACTION.. nothing more Sir.. the LOSS OF TRACTION is almost always an abrupt delivery of power... to a lesser degree a change of adhesive quality on the road surface...
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    Fake 172... why pretend...

    heres my take on it all... IF you want to add a badge.. say sport cos ya think the car deserves it.. you have tweaked and messed and made it better in your eyes.. then cool.. go for it... if, however.. you really really really want a better model and you think it makes other think you...
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    Can you imagine what a turbo 172 would be like

    Yeah M8.. its me hormomes, ya know, that once a month curse that we guys ALL have to suffer.. the gals here dont know theyre born.. sheeeeeesh.. anyway, where wasI ??.. oh yes.. that time of the month that we have to suffer.. get crabby.. sulk.. cry..wanna go on holiday / get married /...
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    Anything happened while I was away

    Not dresses Captn Slarty, check patterned SKIRTS! Often with nothing worn underneath!! Hi GR.. Joe please... Captn Slartys me anorak name LOL.... There is a story in where that came from (the Captn S. bit).. one long evening I will recite it to you... Re:- the dresses and the girlie...
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    Can you imagine what a turbo 172 would be like

    Since I got the bits, I got to thinking what a 172 would be like with a quality turbo kit on, lowered compression ratio and forged pistons... Power.. estimates.... Standard 172 - say 165-170 bhp at 6500 torque.. about 150 foot / pounds at 5400 now.. lets look at a theoretical turbo...
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    Can you imagine what a turbo 172 would be like

    no way doood.. thats where (in my opinion) you are totally wrong. wheel spin is simple.. it caused by a LOSS of TRACTION.. nothing more Sir.. the LOSS OF TRACTION is almost always an abrupt delivery of power... to a lesser degree a change of adhesive quality on the road surface...
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    Fake 172... why pretend...

    heres my take on it all... IF you want to add a badge.. say sport cos ya think the car deserves it.. you have tweaked and messed and made it better in your eyes.. then cool.. go for it... if, however.. you really really really want a better model and you think it makes other think you...
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    Can you imagine what a turbo 172 would be like

    Yeah M8.. its me hormomes, ya know, that once a month curse that we guys ALL have to suffer.. the gals here dont know theyre born.. sheeeeeesh.. anyway, where wasI ??.. oh yes.. that time of the month that we have to suffer.. get crabby.. sulk.. cry..wanna go on holiday / get married /...
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    Anything happened while I was away

    Not dresses Captn Slarty, check patterned SKIRTS! Often with nothing worn underneath!! Hi GR.. Joe please... Captn Slartys me anorak name LOL.... There is a story in where that came from (the Captn S. bit).. one long evening I will recite it to you... Re:- the dresses and the girlie...
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    Can you imagine what a turbo 172 would be like

    Since I got the bits, I got to thinking what a 172 would be like with a quality turbo kit on, lowered compression ratio and forged pistons... Power.. estimates.... Standard 172 - say 165-170 bhp at 6500 torque.. about 150 foot / pounds at 5400 now.. lets look at a theoretical turbo...
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    172 supercharger no // turbo YES.. heres why !

    Paddy, LMAO !! Nice one dood.. Simon.. no probs.. if they wanna go that route - my mobile is 07970 993503 Joe
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    172 supercharger no // turbo YES.. heres why !

    Simon.. Hi M8. there are several planning a kit, but no-one doing it yet... but, yes, its worth a shot.. As for me, I am luck (read DAFT ) enough to be able to do this myself. Might even start selling kits eventually.. but they would be based on reno retail prices (as there is a VERY...
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    172 supercharger no // turbo YES.. heres why !

    Hi Tim .. this sort of work is a labour of love... I would hate to price up fitting something like this - well , the fitting is simple when it bolts on like this .. getting it all to work properly with an aftermarket ecu or management add ons and eventually lower comp pistons is the hard...
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    172 supercharger no // turbo YES.. heres why !

    Paddy, LMAO !! Nice one dood.. Simon.. no probs.. if they wanna go that route - my mobile is 07970 993503 Joe
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