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Yes. I've run them, steburns runs them. Brilliant. Best road tyre I've used on the 1*2's (out of t1r, continentals, pe2's, goodyear f1, pzero nero, proxes 4).

Madness. Who comes up with this stuff? I bet the poor officer felt embarrassed having to arrest the guy.

When Evo did a track test (after Bedford was altered), same day, same driver, the Trophy was quicker than a 197cup.

Would be good for racing, but I'd rather a caterham etc for trackdays.

Learn to drive it, sort the brakes, take out weight. Done.

I think it was you boys that brought up that car to show durability etc of the package. Now it's not suitable as a comparison??

Just had a look, about £40-50. Wouldn't itb's make more sense long term?

How much does the tank cost to refill?

Nice colour. Stickers and sunstrip don't suit it at all. Cambelt done?

I agree with Mark. You do need more training. Everyone does. Not having had an accident proves nothing. My old grandad had no accidents for 20yrs. Mainly because he drove everywhere at 40mph, I'd imagine. Didn't mean he was a good driver.

I think that's even, more pointless tbh!

I didn't actually bring up the Focus fella, was someone else. I'll be honest, I don't believe that they don't torque steer.

TBH I'd get some 15's, cheaper tyres.

Looked nice!

http://www.autocar.co.uk/blogs/stillatthewheel/archive/2010/01/08/just-how-good-are-winter-tyres.aspx

A good point. But they were designed for big power. The focus has the revoknuckle and lsd, yet I'm told still torquesteers. Yet a clio with a 10yr old design doesn't. Why did Ford waste all those millions on R+D?? The VXR has 240ish bhp. And is s**t to drive lol.

You're not reading clearly. No-one's denied it would be very, very fast. Merely questioning the point of a very, very fast FWD car? Will it be any more enjoyable because it's faster in a straight line? Not for me. Other will enjoy that, fair enough. And honestly, who would care if your clio was...

There's a big, big difference. Understeer is horrible. Oversteer is not. You can complete the corner with oversteer. In fwd, you have to back off.

Damn right. I'm a muppet. Yet at oulton went past a 911, m3, gtr. Fwd is easy. Bet they were having more fun though!

Nail. Head. If you wanna go fast without much skill, fwd.

Here we go again lol. Fwd is epic fun up to a point. You reach that point, then you Congo rwd. No offence inended, but I'm hardly gonna put much stock in the opinion of the guy selling the kit telling us a Clio is more fun than an m3. But this has been discussed. Rwd does things fwd can't...

True david. But a sc cup will have a much narrower market than an average 8.5k car. I agree on the uniqueness in a way, so I assume you're only doing 1?;) If you fancy it fella, drive the demo, go from there. Your money at the end of the day!

Could do with knowing if you find out. Mines fubard.

Yes, early 172's didn't have the system.

'incident'

How did you guess??

Momo recliners.

As said, I've never felt the need before this yr, but you might wanna watch this fella GlYEMH10Z4s

Tbh this is the first time since I've been driving that they would of been useful.

Why don't you want to go to a 205? The v12 is the best road tyre I've used.