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also if looking at a phase 1 172, some came with an alloy bonnet.....

yup, and they love it! They need to be warm though as they have a limiter that cuts in @ 6k if the oils cold.

around 7k :cool: Remember the power on these is higher up the scale than the g, i had a punto turbo before, and it took me ages to get used to the revvy nature of the engine.

it will ride the bumps better, so will handle better.

looks really well though. Its like me, mines slammed down, looks mint but probably too much for where i live, and for b road thrashes... its a trade off though

it'll be off another trophy though, not new

try one, get one warmed up, they have a nice 'kick' around 5k.... get a 172 down some b roads and imo the g will be forgotten about

nice, was that yozz's by any chance?

more to the question, how can a 21 yr old afford a trophy? @ 11k baffles me.....

very nice that mate :) like the above or the phase 2's alloys. Not a big fan of the ronals mself though

that is pornographic love it

just take it to reno to bang on the clip?!

think gearboxes are a reflection on how much mechanical sympathy the owners show it. I've had mine sice 30k, now its on 62 (owned 2yrs) and is fine, nothing to worry about imo dont think cambelts are that hard to do, its just all the aircon stuff in the way!!! Cups dont have this problem though ;)

howdy :) for a decent phase 1 172, you will be looking to pay anything from 4k onwards imo, you can still get early cars with low milage. The sport engines seem very good on high milage, headgasket failiure seem very few and far between, never heard of one on here tbh. My car has done 62k...

punto turbo without a doubt :(

clunk comming from drivers side whilst comming to a stop, doesnt do it in drive, or starting off, just when pulling up to a junction :S Seems either suspension or bottom arm related, but all appear ok? (2002 172 cup) any clues?

do you not think they will make it more powerfull than the gti 180.....(ie move the game on) i think they will...?

what will the mini have?

nope, but you can guarentee it'll get a nice power hike, i'm watching the 207 gti with interest

sure the 172 exclusive was around 15.5k mark, as too was the trophy, talking rrp prices here

not a bad thing though? i like em

197 engine + (no more than cup weight @ 1030ish kg ) thats my solution, i reckon they'd sell them by the bucket load

people obviously forget how much rrp 172/182's were

well if there was i'd buy it. I heard an st 150 fiesta the other day, sounded nice in stock form, better than the 172/182. Exhaust had a nice note to it

angel eyes are the new lexus lights all cack.....

look at all these aftermarkets out there, i bet 90% of them give no gains, and actually loose you power I'm sure that a few peeps have done before and after on the rolling roads and gained nothing. Granted the O.E exhaust is made from kitkat rappers, but imo are pretty good

whay didn't the ph 2's have them :mad:

good move, angel eyes are tacky as fook, less is more :)

cut the losses on the 197, bang the lump in the twingo ;) ;) ;) job done, i think they look awsome, just right

good choice imo, all aftermarkets are too boomy and loud, and give no gains over the stock unit