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Ignor this clown its spongeRob squarepants and is banned.... Sequential quicker than a h pattern dogbox as i have driven both in a clio. 1-2 seconds a stage x 12 stages is the difference in winning and losing the class win.

H pattern dog box why would it be quicker ? Sequential with flatshift seems as good as it gets without paddles. Plus less chance of selecting the wrong gear and blowing everything up !

Michelin (Changed back from BF branding) rally tyres are ££££ 20/58 15" are 230quid and you can only buy from one distributor Pro tyre. They are better than dunlops mainly in that they last longer and have a bigger temp window (so only need 2 compounds soft and medium). Not cheap when you may go...

230bhp, no power steering and 8 inch Michelin slicks, its a good work out on tight twisty stuff.!!!! may pinch the Cup racer Power steering pump and get PS sorted.!!!

Looking at the Mk1 and Mk2 subframes and the cup engine mounts it looks as if the mounts are a direct fit on the MK1 subframe and the Mk2 cup subframe was modded to suit.! The UK cup racer box was used on the Mk1 Group A clio so maybe thats why (Europe cup cars used the generic Sadev St75 box).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNyRPNHs2iM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5I4Ei2ojfo&feature=related Some footage from the event...!

Cars is great and up there fighting for class at every event now, box is the last piece of the jigsaw..! JC5 box with Gripper diff and 5.2 Final drive for sale section soon....might be of interest..? This was the box we have used for the last few years and been great, just rebuilt. 115mph at...

Want a Mk 2 Cup racer subframe Box will probably go in the Pink car (Last upgrade it needs to keep up with these Mk2's!!) and build a Mk2 shell for the future..

Yes it was...Got a class result in the end but clutch cable issues hampered us in the afternoon...!

Whats it like to run any issues ? Have you got any spares?

Who ?

Anyone got any ?? Hubs / shafts etc

That was the easy bit LOL

Fred you didnt register anything, MK1 have a VIN plate Mk2 have a build number only.......registerring a MK2 cup car is an absolute nightmare if you do it properly (not swapping ID's to a scrapped car). I should know as the Pink car was bad enough.....

PM me with your number, lots to discuss...

Its definately SpongeKnob squarepants LOL

LOL..... Theres only the shell thats the same, its too fast for you now. Like a good looking woman you wouldnt know what to do with it.....apart from forcing it against the wall :rasp:

So a Mk1 on balance will always be about 50-75kgs lighter than the equivelant Mk2 ?

Make sure you get in touch and catch up, we have moved house not far away... How much where they though....!!!!!!

Strange how cup racers are 900kgs (nothing in them) and everyone seem to be able to get to 850 with there Mk2....

Will pop in some time in the comming weeks....you can not buy them anymore so numbers are useless.....

Yes in a box as spares, on Ohlins now....

So what is a Mk1 if a Mk2 can be 850ish ?

So 1021 - 150kg = under 900kgs........your maths dont add up plus the cup cacer has no dash just a piece of folded plastic. Cup cars dont even have FG boot or ponet / windows etc. sub 900 is very achieveable i believe for a 172 CUP.

Well it is.....read the renaultsport site. Im sure there not telling porkies. http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/championships/cliocup/technical/Default.aspx Cup brochure states 1070 as this is with fuel as i have a copy here in front of me.

MK 1 cup racer has 350lbs front prings and now run 325lbs Ohlins and they seem soft LOL

Got a copy of the CUp brochures and the Mk 3 is 1070kg the others are there about give or take 10kgs......so not miles off at all.

Should have popped over if you were watching....

As promised latest Rally footage from the 2011 Promenade stages at New Brighton. After a great rally at Anglesey a few weeks earlier with 7 O/A and just piped to a class win by a Honda engine Elise (damn it was quick in a straight line!) we were all set to go for what is one of my favourite...

LOL a 172 cup weighs 1040..... I thought it was:- Mk1 - 850 Mk2 - 950 Mk3 - 1050