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I think theyre perfect...no spoilers, no visible big-bore exhaust, subtle tweaks to the bodywork etc. I like the fact that only those "in the know" know about them and what theyre capable of...but the lack of road presence is a right pain in the a** on the motorway when no-one moves over :@

:confused: Why not? Ive got 20k miles on mine in 9 months, and its never missed a beat. It may be a bit coarse at times...but thats exactly why I bought it :D

Learn to drive within yours and the cars limits then...;)

Hes talking out of his a**e! I got the air filter knocked off my bill on the 12k service (ITG panel already in), and also, bought 5 litres of Elf Semi Synth oil over the service counter at about £15.00, gave it to them to use, and they had to take off the £35.00 they would have charged me...

I know its not the same problem but I had "sticking" gears when new, it needed a good yank to get it out of gear. Thankfully, 9 months and 20k miles have freed it up nicely, so yours may well get better with age.

Too many people act as though theyre the only people on this planet. You see it when driving, shopping, holidaying etc. They just couldnt care about anyone else or their property. Gutted for you mate. Id be proper pi**ed if someone did that to mine :@

Aye, but its damn good fun :D

They rock and roll, but are just as quick as anything else round a bend...its called "feedback" ;)

I always just try to keep hands at 9+3. During the course of normal driving, I find its rare that I need to move them at all...on my route each day 1/4 turn of lock each way seems enough for all the roundabouts/junctions. Parking or going slow I feed the wheel. Would never cross...

Why shouldnt it weigh less? Does 1 litre of oil weigh the same as 1 litre of water? If not, then fuels of a differing composition can have different densities and thus weights cant they?

Oh yeah...

If anyones considering binning their standard 172 stereo PM me...Im after upgrading my 22W HU in the Cup.

I actually see it as a technique Rob, perhaps not one best used for the road, but definitely a driving "technique" nonetheless. On track, I like the ability to carry a higher turn-in speed at entry, knowing that a slight lift combined with some corrective lock, and balance on the throttle will...

Thats the main reason I got rid of my V6 Mundaneo and picked up a Cup...with a car that weighs 1,400+ kgs Id have been looking at around £600 in tyres for each and every trackday :( Good luck lookin...

230bhp? He was being a bit conservative then PMSL!!!

Gotta be at least 200bhp surely...

Was a good day then? I saw this one advertised in Evo mag, but couldnt get away from work...:@ In the mag they also said passenger rides were available in the Vauxhall touring cars...did you get a go in them?

I changed mine at about 11k too...they could have gone another 1,000 or so, but I wanted a fresh set for a track-day. Swapping front to rear? Many people will tell you not to do it, but if youre comfortable with controlling the car should you get a little lift-off-oversteer due to reduced...

Exact same here :(

The dipstick isnt showing nearly empty, its showing that youre down at the lower end of whats acceptable, oil level wise. It sounds as though the dash display is showing exactly what it should. My Cup was exactly the same during the first 1,500 miles...I never pressed the button to check then...

Amen to that...

140PS I think, and s*** loads of torque...get caught in the wrong gear and theyd have the edge.

PMSL!!! Got to be the wrong side of £200 I reckon...

OK, I can see where you are coming from now. For me though, when driving on the road, either fast or otherwise, I can honestly say theres a benefit to be had...my revs dont drop that slowly, and Im not always braking that hard.

During the gear change how much speed will you have lost? Maybe 1 or 2 mph? Go out into your car and see what your engine revs are in 2nd gear at, say, 20 miles an hour? Then try 19 mph in 1st? Ive no idea what they are, but if 2nd is 4500 rpm isnt 1st going to be around 6500-7000 rpm? So...

I do it all the time onthe road or track too. As said above, once you get the hang of it, changing gear any other way doesnt seem natural. For me its all about smoothness though, protecting the clutch by matching revs to road speed/gear etc. I think I found it fairly easy to get to grips...

Get used to it...I ordered my Cup last July...and it was delivered on 28th November!!!

Always used it from day one...renault recommend 98 RON, so thats what it gets. I saw on Inside Grand Prix recently that the Ferrari F1 team claim using Shell fuel gives them an advantage over everyone else...as the fuel they use weighs less...so they can get the same mileage as other teams...

For what its worth, Top Gear magazine tested a FRP, Mk1 Clio 172, and a Mk1 Integra Type-R back in April 2000. They covered some challenging back roads, and finished with timed laps of Pembrey circuit. Lap times were... FRP - 1:13:75 Teg - 1:15:48 172 - 1:15:40 So, ultimately, the FRP...

None over here either, after 17k miles...:D