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12v when car running

Car  1.2 Clio
Someone give me a cable that has 12v through it ONLY when the engine is running.
I tried the thin wire on the alternator... that was as useful as mudflaps on an airplane!
2.7 volts!!!

Cheers
 
I know i'm gna cry here.... I spent like an hour fitting a split charge relay. Then it just doesn't work. I followed exact instructions. But the ( sense wire?) just wont give me 12 volts+ like it's meant to ( or so i'm lead to believe )! (Is my alt balls up???)
Anywhere else you know of? I don't really want to charge the back batteryuntil the engien is running. Otherwise that defeats the object of a split charge.
cheers
 
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