Just a comparison (not a racing tale) between these two. I had to pick my dad up from Bognor this afternoon and from the A24, along the A29 and onto the M25, had a VTS to play with when there were no other cars around. He was on his own and I was with my dad. Very impressed with them, quick but not quite as quick as mine (std). Stopped on the M25 though as he was willing to go onto warp speed and hey presto immediately had another VTS right up my crack but let them both get on with it, one of them made a very silly manoevre in front of a BMW who was not chuffed. Would like to have a drive of one but they still have that image. Excellent driving roads, loads of bikes, Ferarris, a Boxter S and a Jag XKR sport (or whatever it is) all giving it some beans.
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silver cup packed FF 182
i currently own a vts mk2 but is for sale atm as im after a 182 but yeah ive owned mine for 3 years and its been a great car and very quick for a 1.6 quickest 1.6 ive driven anyway(standard)
Megane Mk4
Ehh??? An ST170 leaving a saxo VTS?? thats very doubtful as the st only does 60 in 8 secs. So unless the VTS driver wasn't trying/had a crap car/ had 4 lardy mates in, then he would've stomped all over the focusJons Cup said:
As for a clio 172, well ... thats a different matter, half second quicker and keeps going upto 140 unlike the VTS which stops at 115/125 mph
l!ckeldev!l_2k1 said:Ehh??? An ST170 leaving a saxo VTS?? thats very doubtful as the st only does 60 in 8 secs. So unless the VTS driver wasn't trying/had a crap car/ had 4 lardy mates in, then he would've stomped all over the focus
As for a clio 172, well ... thats a different matter, half second quicker and keeps going upto 140 unlike the VTS which stops at 115/125 mph
Yeah i know what you mean, but thats just paper figures, on paper my cup should leave my mates focus, but he stays with me all the way to silly speeds, i honestly think its had something done to it. The vts had just the driver and a passenger and he was trying.
S2000
sorry but a vts would whip a focus st170's arse in any shape or form. Owned a a vts for 2 years and the focus for 6 months..... i wonder why i changed it???
LOL his st is strange, when its on form it flies, but he has a problem with it giving back on him, its like it wont let him rev over 4k at times, he definatly hasnt modded it, but the previous owner might have.
Vts's r quick for what they are, to look at they dont look anything special. Raced a saxo badged up as a vtr in my old zetec-s, but was obviously a vts. Im sure you can work out what happened.
Vts's r quick for what they are, to look at they dont look anything special. Raced a saxo badged up as a vtr in my old zetec-s, but was obviously a vts. Im sure you can work out what happened.
I drive a saxo VTS and its amazing how they do keep up with 150-180bhp bigger cars! i think alot of it is because it has a shortish gearbox, it revs pretty high (7400 limit).
Ive noticed that it doesn't perform well at all with more than 2 people in the car because it relies on power:weight. whereas the 172/182 will keep pulling with people in the car.
i had a small play with a black 55 reg 182 a while ago on a dual carrageway and he pulled away from me but not as much as he thought, then at the next round about he gave me the thumbs up and a big smile so i returned the gesture!
the only problem is with the VTS that because its a small engine its hard to extract more power from really, but with £2000 u can get roughly 150-160bhp, which will then keep up with type Rs!
Ive noticed that it doesn't perform well at all with more than 2 people in the car because it relies on power:weight. whereas the 172/182 will keep pulling with people in the car.
i had a small play with a black 55 reg 182 a while ago on a dual carrageway and he pulled away from me but not as much as he thought, then at the next round about he gave me the thumbs up and a big smile so i returned the gesture!
the only problem is with the VTS that because its a small engine its hard to extract more power from really, but with £2000 u can get roughly 150-160bhp, which will then keep up with type Rs!
Nissan 350Z
l!ckeldev!l_2k1 said:Ehh??? An ST170 leaving a saxo VTS?? thats very doubtful as the st only does 60 in 8 secs. So unless the VTS driver wasn't trying/had a crap car/ had 4 lardy mates in, then he would've stomped all over the focus
According to Evo, the ST170 is quicker than a VTS or 106 GTI.
ex Clio 172 owner :(
Jesus H Corbett
Not another VTS thread.
VTS's are fast quick and fun.
Similar performance to a 172, out handle a 172.
In my former VTS owning opinion.
The end.
Not another VTS thread.
VTS's are fast quick and fun.
Similar performance to a 172, out handle a 172.
In my former VTS owning opinion.
The end.
Golf GTI PP Mk7
only probs with them are:
super cheap & cheerful interior
that god awful image, every chav and his dad drives one
really starting to look dated now, common as muck.
super cheap & cheerful interior
that god awful image, every chav and his dad drives one
really starting to look dated now, common as muck.
Golf GTI PP Mk7
vts.
ex Clio 172 owner :(
Every chav and his dad drives a VTS?
No sir. VTR or less maybe. VTS's are rarer and tend to be owned by more mature enthusiasts.
I could just as easily say every chav and his dad/gran drives a Clio. But I wouldn't say that about a 172. Again, owned by the more mature enthusiast.
No sir. VTR or less maybe. VTS's are rarer and tend to be owned by more mature enthusiasts.
I could just as easily say every chav and his dad/gran drives a Clio. But I wouldn't say that about a 172. Again, owned by the more mature enthusiast.
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
Keydogg said:amen to that!
here's mine
^^^ - I've always liked those standard VTS alloys. They suit the car brilliantly. :approve:
D.
Street Triple R
I had a VTS before my 172 Cup, nice early one which looked like a VTR...so bit of a sleeper
but IMO there is hardly any difference in performance, unless you start having more than one person in each car, the VTS handles fantasticlly too, never underestimate the VTS, great little car
but IMO there is hardly any difference in performance, unless you start having more than one person in each car, the VTS handles fantasticlly too, never underestimate the VTS, great little car
l!ckeldev!l_2k1 said:Ehh??? An ST170 leaving a saxo VTS?? thats very doubtful as the st only does 60 in 8 secs. So unless the VTS driver wasn't trying/had a crap car/ had 4 lardy mates in, then he would've stomped all over the focus
As for a clio 172, well ... thats a different matter, half second quicker and keeps going upto 140 unlike the VTS which stops at 115/125 mph
only done it once but my vts pulled all the way to the clock *40
i know this isnt a true reflection of how fast your really going mind.
great car sold my 172 to get a vts as wanted something cheaper and its been brilliant, mines just a standard mk2 i know they have a bad image but in standard trim i dont mind it.
RB182cup&golf gti
bummer - i miss mine now after seeing that pic! mint cars once on cam about 4-4.5 revs - fck all in it with clio, keep pulling to 130 easily
