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172 cambelt snapped...how much?



  172 cup
got a 172, snapped cambelt, cracked windscreen, needs new front wing.
how much will it cost if i do it myself?
was thinkin £60 to have head skimmed, new valves if bent maybe £30?
was gonna try get windscreen done on insurance?
any imput verver welcome!
 

MicKPM

ClioSport Trader
  Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
Valves are normally around £9 each... times that by 16 and you get £144!

Rough gestimate - £850-900 to do the job properly

Mick
 

JMR

  RB 182 Cup
6 hours labour to fit the cambelt, without any valves to replace etc etc.

Cheapo timing belt kit is about £120 with the tensioners etc.

As said earlier, its £450 to replace the cambelt as a precaution with no known problems.
 
  172 cup
Ah ok, obviously it wasnt going to be £90 ...haha.
But i honestly thought people pay £600+ because of man hours and expensive parts?
and alright i forgot the cambelt kit.... what do you mean special tools though?
as i thought all i would need would be valve spring compressors, some way to lift the head a toolkit?
and the parts:
cambelt kit
new head bolts
new valves (however many needed)
new gasket
new fluid
i understand its not an 8v but 16v cant be that hard to do.....
 

MicKPM

ClioSport Trader
  Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
To do the job alone is easy in a weekend IF you're a competant DIYer and understand the process but you're going to need:
  • Cylinder head gasket
  • Cylinder head bolts
  • Coolant
  • Timing belt kit
  • Aux. belt kit
  • New valves
  • Valve stem oil seals (Silly not to do them)
Then, tooling wise you're going to need:
  • Camshaft locking tool
  • Camshaft sprocket locking tool
  • Crankshaft locking pin
  • Valve spring compressor
  • Tech wrech or torque wrench that can accurately measure force and angles
  • Lapping paste
Other consumable items you might aswell do whilst you're there:
  • Oil
  • Filter
  • Re-seal cam cover... Silicone is NOT a safe or recomended solution
 
  Clio172 / Focus Ti X
To give you a rough guide.

Bent valves replaced and a head skim etc i payed £400. Giving the head to an engine specialist is far easier to do. Replace all 16 valves so you dont take any chances. Get them lapped etc which is a must with new valves. You can buy a grinding stick but you'd be there forever. Also put in stem seals.

so £400 for headwork (add to that as much as you like if its wrecked the bottom end but mines was fine
£150 approx for the tools for cambelt. Maybe more im not sure, try borrow a set
same again for the cambelt kit
same again for the head gasket set and bolts
same again for the aux belt kit
Oil and filter £30 - £50

Your talking £800+ anyway doing the work yourself and giving the head to an engine specialist. If the bottom end is fine that is

Were not in 1990 anymore when it comes to engines. The cambelt process is quite tricky on these. If you havent read up on it you will get it wrong 100%

There are no timing marks to work with like older engines, TBH though, I find these engines far better to get timed up if you have the correct tools rather than an engine with timing marks.
 

MicKPM

ClioSport Trader
  Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
Oh and don't forget to check the Dephaser pulley... for the extra £153 thye cost I'd be sticking one on the parts bill also.

Mick
 

TheEvilGiraffe

South East - Essex
ClioSport Area Rep
FLOL !

Is this your car ?!

Windscreen cover will cover the windscreen replacement, presuming you've got windscreen cover on your insurance ? Only you can tell us how much your glass excess is on that. If you want to know how much a screen is, ring Renault and AutoGlass. Is it cracked or smashed ? What else is damaged ? You won't be able to fit that yourself anyway I should imagine...

As for the wing, they're plastic, just replace it. Get one on here, eBay or at a dealers, or at a scrappy. Price varies, obviously.

Regarding the engine, you're in Yorkshire, ring RS Tuning in Leeds and ask them to pick it up, or arrange a tow there yourself if that's cheaper. Once you've bought all the tools, and argued with it for a few days, and then timed it up wrong, you'll take it to a specialist anyway :rasp: /pessimist

Good luck !
 

MicKPM

ClioSport Trader
  Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
Second hand engine.... Done

Believe it or not that's not the cheapest way to go - You've got to fetch it, fit it and you'd be silly not to do the timing belt, clutch and some other bits to whilst you're there which already sends the bill to the £1200 mark. Then there's also the chance that you're buying a duff engine with moon mileage that's been pressure washed and sold as a "genuine 45k" motor.

Mick
 
  Seat Ibiza
Believe it or not that's not the cheapest way to go - You've got to fetch it, fit it and you'd be silly not to do the timing belt, clutch and some other bits to whilst you're there which already sends the bill to the £1200 mark. Then there's also the chance that you're buying a duff engine with moon mileage that's been pressure washed and sold as a "genuine 45k" motor.

Mick

Yeah thats true, but if its going to be nearly £1000 to do your own engine, i'd get a second hand one and spend a little more making it tip top. But then if you bought the car to sell, you will end up spending as little as you can.
 

MicKPM

ClioSport Trader
  Clio16v/Zoe Z.E.50
Yep, very true but a decent used engine adds roughly (on average) £450 to the bill straight away just to purchase the tall block which is the timing belt, aux belt and dephaser pulley parts price. I always say "Better the devil you know" unless the engine you're repairing has done 100k or more.
 


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