172 cup vs 106 GTi

Subway · Jan 24, 2006

Hi all,

A friend of mine has just purchased himself a mint 106 gti, he has been bragging to me all afternoon about how fast it is and how it would blitz my car ect.

I'm going round his tomorrow and if the weather is looking on the plus side then we will go for a little blast down his way.

I don't know much about the Gti's but I have heard that they are very quick and good at handling. So I'm just wondering if I would leave him behind or shall I get prepared for a taming.

Cheers, Adam

DOWNHUMAN · Jan 24, 2006

Subway said:
Hi all,

A friend of mine has just purchased himself a mint 106 gti, he has been bragging to me all afternoon about how fast it is and how it would blitz my car ect.

I'm going round his tomorrow and if the weather is looking on the plus side then we will go for a little blast down his way.

I don't know much about the Gti's but I have heard that they are very quick and good at handling. So I'm just wondering if I would leave him behind or shall I get prepared for a taming.

Cheers, Adam

I had one try it on the other day (neons + 18" wheels tho - yuck) as he was a tiny speck in the rear view mirror...

lawrence · Jan 24, 2006

remember the one we raced coming back from birmingham?

they are quick little motors

Hector · Jan 24, 2006

i would have thought you would beat him quite convincingly, on paper anyhow.. but never been in a 106gti

Martin · Jan 24, 2006

Yours does 5.5 to 60 so will kill a pesky 106!:quiet:

DOWNHUMAN · Jan 24, 2006

*edit - double post*

Griff · Jan 24, 2006

0 - 60 is 5.5???

Down a fecking steep hill is that?

Fletcher · Jan 24, 2006

What about a 172 Mk2 Vs a 106 Gti?

Gaz_ · Jan 24, 2006

you should beat it, but not by a great margin......

Steve2004 · Jan 24, 2006

The old clio vs. 106 GTi threads have been done almost as much as the clio vs. other clio ones :dapprove:

Do a search

Mike_SE · Jan 24, 2006

agreed. my mate has a VTS and its pretty much the same story. u will have the legs on him, but not by too much......

Fletcher · Jan 24, 2006

gt_gaz said:
you should beat it, but not by a great margin......

Cheers mate, i ask because theres one going around Winchester, and it's only a matter of time before we meet.

Subway · Jan 24, 2006

Ah ok then, I can go to his feeling relaxed & confident now.

Subway · Jan 24, 2006

No need for a search, it's not like anything exciting is going on. So i might as well keep people posting

paul g · Jan 24, 2006

heres me (cup) and my mates gti at crailraceway , as for handling the cup also edges it , still close tho

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/show_times.asp?CarNumber=48&RunDate=20050306&RaceID=285

Fletcher · Jan 24, 2006

Subway said:
No need for a search, it's not like anything exciting is going on. So i might as well keep people posting

I agree

Lagerlout · Jan 24, 2006

There's good ones and bad ones, same as the Clio.

If you meet a good one, don't expect to be shaking him off too easily. If you meet a bad on you should lose him.... but they're close enough for the driver to play the biggest part.

Hector · Jan 24, 2006

what is 'reaction time' on the quarter mile times, and how do they measure it? (assume its something to do with the gear changes?)

biojo · Jan 24, 2006

reaction time it from when the green light is lit , to u starting to move forward i believe

Hector · Jan 24, 2006

ah right I see... didnt see how it could be how quick you shift gears

Donz144 · Jan 24, 2006

Great chat#!!! I think its worth mentioning (without sounding like Dad!) that if you go down to see you mate with the 106 dont be tempted to push that bit harder for the sake of beating him round the bend..... Its the only time (when pushing to prove somethng) that you'll likely end up in a tree and dead.

furry_cup · Jan 24, 2006

i have recently changed from a 106 gti to my cup.

standard the 106 is fast but the clio would always have the upper edge. id say the 106 had better handling too. its so small, like a match box. the 106 was a f**king b**ch in 2nd and 3rd, it was emense and just kept going. you could do just shy of 90 in 3rd. id also say that the 106 pulled better top speed, 5th gear doing 100mph +

i had my 106 RR'd at 150bhp. with my mods it surprised alot of cars(was also stripped out). and was very very quick, i would also surprise a cup. when having some fun with a cup the cup always had the edge, you could tell it had alot of torque. a modified gti could keep up a cup anyday, i wouldnt bet on it over taking one tho(unless it was cammed and mapped). around a corner maybe.. the cup will always have the edge. having more torque and a bigger engine. and still being pretty light weight.

(all comments above are imo, not subject to any argumentative w*****s who will disagree)

tehe.

SOHROB · Jan 24, 2006

against a std gti you shouldnt have any probs,with a few mods eg cams,manifold etc they would be on par with a cup

ollie_yesclio · Jan 24, 2006

my mate has one, but another mate also has a 172. he 172 never exactly pulls away, but the gti would never manage to get past him. they are fast, but from what iv seen, not as fast as a 172! his is standard though, reckon a bit of weight reduction, breathing mods etc and it might give it a good run!

Chris n nic · Jan 24, 2006

It won`t be much faster but it will be...Craggy`s 106 was one of the faster ones and his best was 14.6 IIRC...can`t remember his mods but I`m sure it was something like manifold, decat/exhaust ect

Chris

Day · Jan 24, 2006

No no no no!

This is the fastest 106...

:rasp:

OLI · Jan 25, 2006

106 GTI's handle like go-karts!!!

my mates got a 1.4 quiksilver and that can handle amazingly

not very quick at all but could outhandle a lot of cars.

In a straight line your's should leave that pesky gti for dead though:dead:

Sir_Dave · Jan 25, 2006

They are very good and a modded one, ie pugsport zorst & ramcooler, supersprint mani, cams & remap will be the same as a cup.

Remember though, your comparing a car that 'apparently' only has 120bhp vs a car from the hot hatch class above with '172bhp'.

Compare like with like, ie 306 gti6/Rallye vs 172 . . and they're pretty much exactly the same - ive had them all, they're all pretty much equal.

You can all argue your points till your blue in the face, but they're all excellent fun to drive, so frankly . . . who gives a sh1t :S

ben_p · Jan 25, 2006

i hope there isnt that many bends......i wouldt of thought yu would loose him on the bends but on a stright run then you would pull away

kully · Jan 25, 2006

if u r going to race 2 proove the point who's the daddy , make sure u r up front , its always harder for car to overtake once ur in full flow , but on a dual carriageway off the lights , make sure u make us proud , dont end up
in the ditch , racing is for the track .

Nafoff · Jan 25, 2006

well said kullycliosport...i think subway is just going for a spirited drive rather than a race....

anyway as said plenty of times already...it will be close but you should just have the legs

everyone says bout cars trying it on with them...knowone around my area has ever given me any grief...

Richyy182 · Jan 25, 2006

OLI said:
106 GTI's handle like go-karts!!!

my mates got a 1.4 quiksilver and that can handle amazingly
not very quick at all but could outhandle a lot of cars.

In a straight line your's should leave that pesky gti for dead though:dead:

I drive a GTi and I wouldn't exactly say I get left for dead by cups, I raced one at pod a few months back and got beaten by a few hundreds of a second (didn't help me not paying attention to the lights). I'm going to pod on sunday so if anyone fancies a race i'll be there

182 sport · Jan 25, 2006

1st and second gear are pretty similar,but once you change to 3rd in the clio,you will see him disapearing in the rear view,as they just pull,where as the pug doesnt

Richyy182 · Jan 25, 2006

182 sport said:
1st and second gear are pretty similar,but once you change to 3rd in the clio,you will see him disapearing in the rear view,as they just pull,where as the pug doesnt

Um again not technically true, unless it has a jet engine

ben_p · Jan 25, 2006

rich ill have a run against ya m8

Richyy182 · Jan 25, 2006

ben_p said:
rich ill have a run against ya m8

Good lad i'm up for it

16vturbolee · Jan 25, 2006

bye bye gti

Subway · Jan 25, 2006

Even round the corners I should be able to lose him as his car is completely standard and mine has got coils on it.

Kullycliosport "Racing is for the track" - lol you get paid to say that?

I love the gti's, I was thinking about getting one before the cup...but then my little baby showed up on auto trader and the rest is history!

Adam

kully · Jan 25, 2006

Kullycliosport "Racing is for the track" - lol you get paid to say that?

not really .lol just be careful though , dont know about any1 else but sometimes the car goes where it wants to . not where im pointing .

never given up a challenge though , many cars up my arse asking for it .
cant resist though , but just my opinion , :approve:

172 cup vs 106 GTi

16vturbolee

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