172 vs A3 1.8 T (1998)

[AndyWilde]

Hey guys,

A friend of mine has just bought a 1998 A3 1.8 T and is pretty confident that it will keep up with my 172 (std apart from K-Tec Stealth back box). I am pretty sure it won't be much competition - what do you think?

Andy

 

[shiyan]

"The 1.8 litre water-cooled, four-cylinder, 20-valve double overhead cam (DOHC) intercooled turbo engine has a maximum output of 110 kW \@ 5700 rpm.
The A3 1.8T has a top speed of around 217 km/h and accelerates from 0 - 100 km/h in just 8.1 seconds."

The 1.8T in the S3 has 225hp, gets to 100km/h in 6.2s, so it depends on whether his 1.8T is modified or not

I'm guessing he needs to be at around 190hp?

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

Won't be much in it tbh - bags of torque

 

[.Ben.]

IIRC, in standard form, it'll have 180bhp in a car that weighs about 1300kg.

Clio should edge it.

But it depends if it's been tweaked.

 

[gaz44]

Close. Clio will handle better.

 

[*Badger*]

The A.3 1.8T has two versions, the 2 wheel drive is 150bhp and the quattro is 180bhp.

 

[Millsy]

^^
as badger said, guessing its probably the 150bhp version

 

[AndyWilde]

His is the 150 bhp fwd

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

You should smoke him no problem atall.

8.1 to 60mph.

Snooze fest central

 

[micloi]

I hope that by "keeping up" you mean at the track and not on the streets ...

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

I hope that by "keeping up" you mean at the track and not on the streets ...

roffle @ the care-police...

 

[Ben.]

same engine as the golf gti i guess....not fast at all, i imagine a RS would be much fatser

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

roffle @ the care-police...

lol.

 

[MATT BLACK]

Very little needed for 200 BHP on the A3 1.8T's

Remove cat and weld into place a straight through pipe. Then send ECU to ...

http://www.carevolution.co.uk/audi.php ( £299 )

This will add about 45 - 50 hp on the standard engine. The decat about 5 - 10hp.

Driven an Audi a3 with these mods and a 172 wouldnt stand a chance

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Very little needed for 200 BHP on the A3 1.8T's

Remove cat and weld into place a straight through pipe. Then send ECU to ...

http://www.carevolution.co.uk/audi.php ( £299 )

This will add about 45 - 50 hp on the standard engine. The decat about 5 - 10hp.

wtf?

Modified vesus standard ftl!

 

[Blarno]

Nobody going to say the Clio will 'have it in the twisties'?

 

[micloi]

roffle @ the care-police...

Will you find it funny if a member of your family ends up like this because 2 cars are racing in the street and they hit their vehicle?

 

[JoedotwasT5phy]

Will you find it funny if a member of your family ends up like this because 2 cars are racing in the street and they hit their vehicle?

I am obviously not saying it's "cool" to race. Afterall I'm sure you have never broken the speed limit/driven entuhusiasticly/overtaken etc...

 

[mcphee197]

Will you find it funny if a member of your family ends up like this because 2 cars are racing in the street and they hit their vehicle?

Although I agree being a d1ck on the road is wrong, the only person who has mentioned street racing is you, so wind your neck in.

 

[Cooksport]

Although I agree being a d1ck on the road is wrong, the only person who has mentioned street racing is you, so wind your neck in.

+1

 

[Ben10]

Clio will deffo win on the twisties!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!1!!!!!111one

 

[smitchell1]

My step dad has a 180bhp 1.8T TT and I just pull away from it in a straight line and my 172 made 161.9hp on the rolling road yesterday so the weight kills the TTs performance!!!

 

[rapid86]

all you need is to get the 1.8t engines remapped, they can go upto 260bhp easily!

Both cars standard i think the clio will do it!

 

[blackpool_john]

clio will have it in the twisties.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

LOL @ what modifications can be added to a turbo unit!

We are talking nigh-on standard ffs!

 

[tyranical]

clio will have it in the twisties.

Epic line.

 

[ash197]

Close. Clio will handle better.

The new subtle term for 'it will have it in the twisties'!!

 

[micloi]

Although I agree being a d1ck on the road is wrong, the only person who has mentioned street racing is you, so wind your neck in.

Ok then, let's assume that the twisties that everyone mentions in this thread are in the Nürburgring ...
Don't know who is kidding who though.

I am off to read a more mature thread.

 

[LiquidCarbon]

Ok then, let's assume that the twisties that everyone mentions in this thread are in the Nürburgring ...
Don't know who is kidding who though.

I am off to read a more mature thread.

you my friend are a tit :sleepy:

 

[ash197]

Lmao bassyboi

 

[realnumber 1]

Very little needed for 200 BHP on the A3 1.8T's

Remove cat and weld into place a straight through pipe. Then send ECU to ...

http://www.carevolution.co.uk/audi.php ( £299 )

This will add about 45 - 50 hp on the standard engine. The decat about 5 - 10hp.

Driven an Audi a3 with these mods and a 172 wouldnt stand a chance

I would fancy my chances with an A3 with 200 bhp.

 

[LiquidCarbon]

^^^


200 + some, id say

 

[blackpool_john]

Epic line.

its nice to see my sarcasm is not wasted on you.

 

[Tom_90]

Ok then, let's assume that the twisties that everyone mentions in this thread are in the Nürburgring ...
Don't know who is kidding who though.

I am off to read a more mature thread.

since when has there ever been a mature thread?? lol

 

[Andyman]

I hope that by "keeping up" you mean at the track and not on the streets ...

On the bypass you clown :clown:

 

[Ben10]

On the bypass you clown :clown:

or outside a busy primary school

(OMFGZZZZ somebody have a rant as i mentioned going fast in a busy pedestrial 30 zone)

 

[rob_clio197rs]

ive kept level with a remapped ibiza cupra which was over 210bhp, mines modded to, there was absolutly nuthin in it up to 1££

 

[Marty]

Nobody going to say the Clio will 'have it in the twisties'?

:sleepy:

 

[Tav]

all you need is to get the 1.8t engines remapped, they can go upto 260bhp easily!

Both cars standard i think the clio will do it!

No they don't...the 150bhp versions only get near 200bhp with a remap, beyond that you start to need the parts from the 225bhp versions..i.e new downpipe, larger turbo etc. etc.

My friend has a Ibiza Cupra with the 156bhp version of the engine. It should be around 200bhp now. It's awful, drives like a diesel. Huge slug of low down torque and absolutely no top end sparkle, you need to change up at around 5500-6000rpm, dull dull dull. It's a lot lighter than an A3 I'd suspect and isn't any faster than a 182/Integra Type R...so I can't see an A3 standing much chance.

The 180bhp version would yeild much extra performance thanks to lugging around 4wd and extra equipment. S3 on the other hand would be too quick in a straight line I'd think.