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care to put your money where your mouth is at Pod on Sunday?????????
Quote: Originally posted by CocoPops on 18 February 2005
Meggerman,
Im not having a dig at the car itself.....
Im fed up with the 182Cup owners thinking that their car is best because a) it was cheap and b) it is faster
Well, take a flipping reality check
Very often the 182 Cup isnt much cheaper than a 182.
Id dispute any "speed" advantage in the real world.
At the end of the day, yes, both the 182 and 182Cup are desirable cars, but I see no reason to buy the 182Cup other than cost and to be frank I think the "cheapness" isnt worth the discount over the full fat 182.
fair enough, each to their own.
i wouldnt mind either car.. however ive just seen Romers throttle bodied 172 and its got me thinking why not keep the 172 and spend the cash on some of those muthas !!
Quote: Originally posted by meggerman on 18 February 2005
couldnt agree more m8. There is a degree of snobery on this topic. i mean for FFS you can either get a DCI for 10k or a 182cup with recaros for 11.5k massively cheap price and better performance than fullfat 182.. and before people say yea but not noticble difference well... for one the idea of the recaros IMPO is to save even further weight without increasing insurance group with that extra power and weights saving the 182 must have crept pretty close to ins grp 17. Now ok everyone may hark on about recaros for fullfat 182 but be honest 99% of people who are not on this forum and probably only 10% of people on this forum are going to rip their seats out and buy recaros especially when it involves silly dash light fixes and increased insurance premiums as its not a factory fit option ! and before people say well i can order the 182 with recaros from factory.. well yes you can but you lose two airbags and in essence all your doing is stripping it out like the cup is anyway but even then you still wont have the same weight saving as the 182cup with recaros will be the lightest RS clio yet apart from 172cup which if im correct weights 1040kgs and the 182cup 1060kgs but with lighter recaros probably tips in @ 1050kgs (i think they saved more than 20kgs in the first place anyway) hence power is lower down there is more power and more torque and only 10kgs diffo (so if you weight an extra stone or two thats gone)Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 18 February 2005
Is there a CliosportCup.net site?
The instant reaction to the Cups is getting very boring IMO
in essence the 182cup is the fastest production FWD Clio ever is it not ?. in retrospect i would of got the 172CUP instead of my 172 if i understood more about clios at the time, this time im going with the 182cup.
just like to point out that when i removed 20kgs from my 172 it felt much quicker on the uptake and pulled harder.. i notice still a remarkbly big difference with that weight saving so dont think that with the potencialy lighter recaro seats the 182cup wont much faster i think it will.. but you must take standard 182cup+recaro+lightrearbench and compare to 182 with cup packs and all the toys.
[Edited by meggerman on 18 February 2005 at 10:13pm]
the suposed point of the cup is to save money and weight, the 182 cup doesnt really do either of these to well if anyones honest, i mean they remove leather/climate/xenons etc and they only reduce its price by £800,to add these as option on most manufacturers cars would cost well over £1500, the cup is a marketing ploy as it does nothing mechanically different to the cupped 182 (i.e track/suspension/brakes/etc , like the 172 cup did).
as for putting recaros in it to make the seats as nice as the 182 then spending £800 as an option defeats the whole point of the cup doesnt it. ?
im not having a go at the 182cup, im more having a go at renault for there tactics and the way they piss on people who buy a car only to find they release another version 6 months later.
so my original point/opinion stands, for the money you may as well go for the cupped 182 for value for money, as you can get them as cheap if not cheaper than the 182cup, and the cupped 182 will no doubt get a better price at re-sale time, i have personal experience of this lately as when i went to a honda dealer recently they thought it was a 182cup, and he said they werent interested in it as a px, i said it wasnt a cup it was just cupped 182, he got back on the phone and his attitude changed and he offered me £10.250 for it !!!
Quote: Originally posted by Neil82cup on 19 February 2005
Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 18 February 2005
The photo makes the dash look dull. Yet the two cars share the same dash. Do The math. To be blunt I cant be arsed with the playground politics I see here about the Cups.
Us 172 Cup owners got it as well, just ignore them they are just jealous they dont have a Cup.
*runs and hides*
LOL, long time no hear!
well post some more pictures of your interior, and you keep saying you cant be bothered with all this, but you persist in posting !!!!!!Quote: Originally posted by Roy Munson on 19 February 2005
Bore-a-thon
My original point was that every time I see a post asking about a Cup, the almost robotic response, is that the Cup is crap (usually coupled with that same generic picture), rather than actual answers.
I really cant be arsed to get into the entire debate all over again
