Clio 197
I want better brakes... so:
1) AP Racing or Willwood? (4 pots)
2) Front only or front and rear
3) Will I need a better seatbelt?
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182 Replacement Calipers
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I want better brakes... so:
1) AP Racing or Willwood? (4 pots)
2) Front only or front and rear
3) Will I need a better seatbelt?
omar go for Brembos, ive got a mate in the trade that can do them for £800+VAT he would only be able to get them for me tho :-( soz. Think they are in the region of £1200 rrp. PM rmcardnal...he has them on his beast! Next choice would be AP Racing....would be fronts only i think, also....get harnesses
Clio 197
Cheers..
Looks like AP then (Brembo is far too expensive).
All I wanna do is stop...
Clio 197
Well... a bracket needs to be made-up for the calipers...
Then I can choose anything from here:
http://www.apracing.com/roadcar/caliper/index.htmhttp://www.apracing.com/roadcar/caliper/index.htm
I want four-pots... for use with std 280mm disc... with a large pad SA.
Omar, how desperate are you? We can have a chat about it at the Sprint weekend.
There are quite a few options that may be available, but nearly £1000 on brakes for a Clio is a bit excessive when you will be able to get a set-up that performs just as well for around half the price.
Clio 197
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Absolutely! Thats why Im also considering Willwood etc..
Ive been meaning to give you a call, as you were highly recommended by Edde.
The std setup gets too hot, ruining both the pads and fluid... I cooked-em @ the ring and brands.
In fact @ brands, then pedal went hard, and wouldnt go down.. so I had to stop, lol.
See you @ the sprint then?
Yeh, heat is THE big problem with cast iron calipers. Ruins everything, including discs.
Do you do a lot of trackdays?
Clio 197
I try to fit them in when I can afford to...
But changing pads and fluid on a regular basis is a false economy!
Im very heavy and late on the brakes anyway (when having fun)... Id like something that can cope with the heat.
E91 M Sport
Ross brakes are so good, he cant even move the car out of the GDI garage!
(22 days left btw
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How do you guys brake? I guess its more a user problem than a hardware problem.
Go for standard Brembo dics/rotors 24x280mm, PFC97 pads and a good quality brake fluid like Motul RBF600 or ATE Superblue.
There is absolute no way that you will be able to cook the fluid or fade the brakes on the Ring or at any track if you use the brakes properly.
Ive taken our 172 to the Ring with this set up and I have been doing 20 flat out laps on tracks (here in Sweden) known for been really hard on the brakes.
With above set up there is always plenty of stopping ability left. No sign of fading what so ever.
PFC97s are a bit expensive, but they more or less last forever... Ive done at least 10 trackdays on my current set of PFC97s with very little wear to the pads. The downside is that you have to replace the discs more often as the pads are rather agressive, and that the wheels are beeing damaged by the brake dust. (On track replace your bling wheels whit a set of cheap 7x15" ET37 rims for the R-rubber and forget about the dust problem.)
Audi A6 (S3 on order)
Most of us want brakes that can be used on a day to day basis too.
A few people have run the PF pads and then changed back due to noise/dust issues.
Big juicy 4pots give me the best of both worlds. Also, where I drive (milton keynes) if you know a better way of braking from 110-40 that pushing the pedal in the middle ... send me a postcard from 10 roundabouts behind me.
The standard setup was rather mushy after 3 or 4 big stops.Quote: Originally posted by Falk on 15 August 2005
How do you guys brake? I guess its more a user problem than a hardware problem.
Go for standard Brembo dics/rotors 24x280mm, PFC97 pads and a good quality brake fluid like Motul RBF600 or ATE Superblue.
There is absolute no way that you will be able to cook the fluid or fade the brakes on the Ring or at any track if you use the brakes properly.
Ive taken our 172 to the Ring with this set up and I have been doing 20 flat out laps on tracks (here in Sweden) known for been really hard on the brakes.
With above set up there is always plenty of stopping ability left. No sign of fading what so ever.
PFC97s are a bit expensive, but they more or less last forever... Ive done at least 10 trackdays on my current set of PFC97s with very little wear to the pads. The downside is that you have to replace the discs more often as the pads are rather agressive, and that the wheels are beeing damaged by the brake dust. (On track replace your bling wheels whit a set of cheap 7x15" ET37 rims for the R-rubber and forget about the dust problem.)
i should give this guy a job working for Yozzasport!!!!
Audi A6 (S3 on order)
Give him Yozs jobQuote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 15 August 2005
Quote: Originally posted by Falk on 15 August 2005
How do you guys brake? I guess its more a user problem than a hardware problem.
Go for standard Brembo dics/rotors 24x280mm, PFC97 pads and a good quality brake fluid like Motul RBF600 or ATE Superblue.
There is absolute no way that you will be able to cook the fluid or fade the brakes on the Ring or at any track if you use the brakes properly.
Ive taken our 172 to the Ring with this set up and I have been doing 20 flat out laps on tracks (here in Sweden) known for been really hard on the brakes.
With above set up there is always plenty of stopping ability left. No sign of fading what so ever.
PFC97s are a bit expensive, but they more or less last forever... Ive done at least 10 trackdays on my current set of PFC97s with very little wear to the pads. The downside is that you have to replace the discs more often as the pads are rather agressive, and that the wheels are beeing damaged by the brake dust. (On track replace your bling wheels whit a set of cheap 7x15" ET37 rims for the R-rubber and forget about the dust problem.)
i should give this guy a job working for Yozzasport!!!!
Clio 197
Hiya fred...
Yup - my first step in the right direction is my OZ Superleggs for better cooling.
As for abuse... Im not really not really abusive to them... But I dont like taking a break every ten minutes when going round a track, lol!
I try not to use my engine too much for braking... This one needs to last me 80,000 miles.
Tom: Ill keep you posted, as I really have to sort it out.
PS Now I have a burst shocker somewhere too... pain in the arze!
Clio 197
ooo, Ill have a look...
Is 6-pot overkill on a 182? (PS std brakes are one-pot arent they).
Ideally you want o break a little earlier into the cornewrs, ands then you can egtt eh car ballenced into the corner trsther then just chucking it in, brake earlier and you will find you need to rake less as you can carry more speed round the corners.
Atleast thaqts what the 60 odd instructor told me at Anglesey
6 pots are an advantage when running very large discs and you have minimal clearance to the wheel. As they have 2 extra pistons, the pistons themselves can be that much smaller enabling the caliper to be shallower.
In my experience the 2 most important aspects of the brake set-up are the caliper and the quality of the pad. Get these 2 things right and it doesnt matter what discs you use.
