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106 GTi
The major point for the Williams was it had more off a selling point over the valver with the larger capacity engine. The trophy has all the same type of changes but really needed an engine upgrade to to give it more off a difference between the 182/cup etc.
Saying that Renault ruined the Williams by then doing a 2 and 3. The trophy will be sought after but dont think it will get the cult like Status the williams has.
Polo GTi
Different engine capacity, err no check,oops missed that one off
I actually like the trophy though, it stands out like the 172 cup does, only Clios I would replace the Willy for.
Dont get me wrong i like the williams alot but i think there are a few guilty parties on both sides that will slate the other down to the ground needlessly. why cant everyone admit both are very good hatches that are capable of pissing off alot faster more expensive machinery especially when a winding a road is thrown in.
Polo GTi
Quote: Originally posted by Loony on 02 June 2005
Dont get me wrong i like the williams alot but i think there are a few guilty parties on both sides that will slate the other down to the ground needlessly. why cant everyone admit both are very good hatches that are capable of pissing off alot faster more expensive machinery especially when a winding a road is thrown in.
I do agree fella
i think some of the willy owners forget that something be it a film/actor/piece of music sometimes has to have some time pass since being new to be held up as a cult icon/classic etc so who knows what kind of regard the trophy will be held in in 10 years time. And blink i think sadly schoolkids will have posters of maxxed out sh*tboxes on their walls these days rather than a very good but standard hothatch
what makes you think its fasterQuote: Originally posted by entjm on 02 June 2005
Its faster than a 182 cup, surely that is the point of the trophy, and seeing that renault have historically had success with hot hatches, 5 turbo, willy etc you cant blame them for fettling an already well recieved car!
Perhaps tiff could beat a CTR now in a trophy!?
182 & LY Clio 220 ed
I personally think that the trophy should have been as different to the 182 and 182 cup as the 172 cup was to the original (and MkII 172). 90Kgs lighter, but with the extra 10 horses (at least) and suspension revisions. Why make a car too similar to the others for anything more than a parts bin run out special edition? Im not saying the Trophy is bad, I think its good...its just TOO similar to what is already available (its like a 182 cup with options!)
Quote: Originally posted by 182_blue on 02 June 2005
what makes you think its fasterQuote: Originally posted by entjm on 02 June 2005
Its faster than a 182 cup, surely that is the point of the trophy, and seeing that renault have historically had success with hot hatches, 5 turbo, willy etc you cant blame them for fettling an already well recieved car!
Perhaps tiff could beat a CTR now in a trophy!?
on the renault sport website there is a video and the french dude says that the trophy is faster round a track than a 182 cup.
he also talks about the new suspensiona tthe front, changes to the reaction of the rear suspension, new seating position etc.
[Edited by entjm on 02 June 2005 at 1:13pm]
ahh, you said it was faster, not faster around a trackQuote: Originally posted by entjm on 02 June 2005
Quote: Originally posted by 182_blue on 02 June 2005
what makes you think its fasterQuote: Originally posted by entjm on 02 June 2005
Its faster than a 182 cup, surely that is the point of the trophy, and seeing that renault have historically had success with hot hatches, 5 turbo, willy etc you cant blame them for fettling an already well recieved car!
Perhaps tiff could beat a CTR now in a trophy!?
on the renault sport website there is a video and the french dude says that the trophy is faster round a track than a 182 cup.
Embarrassed to say
Fifth gear are a bunch of w**kers. The bird is a munter <a sought of posh pauline fowler except the years have been good to her > and both the blokes are t**sers who cant drive given the experience they had. Reminds me of that show on channel 4 faking it where they took a young waster and tried to turn him into a racing driver except the waster just didnt have the gift like the lads on fifth gear.
Give them a skoda favorite crs, pay them enough and their tell you the skoda favourite crs is the best car in the world bar none. All reno have to do is cough up the readies plus giveaway car to get the fifth gear best of the bunch channel 5 seal of approval.
Vee dub
Quote: Originally posted by GR7 on 02 June 2005
Quote: Originally posted by TomS on 02 June 2005
Capsicum red? My first car was a Capsicum red mk1
Maybe they are using up old paint, now that we live in the age of recycling most things!
lol steady, mk1s are still the best!
The trophy colour looks slightly darker than my old car though
Tom
Capiscum Red? Im allegic to peppers.
