19 in 6 months, what car to get?

[Martin_172]

No but short journeys like that kill it, the car wont get a proper chance to warm up/settle before it actually turns out above 30mpg etc

Short journeys in any car are the achillies heel as im sure your aware never mind a 2.0l petrol.

Imo ofcourse

agreed to a certain extent but as long as the car is getting good use for other drives rather than to work and back then it wont be a problem. my old 190 brake 172 got used daily to go 1.5 miles to work and 1.5 miles back from work 7 days a week but it also got plenty other use and aloud to warm up properly and it never done it any harm.


mate dont worry about fuel consumption i got 240 miles from a tank of fuel in my old 1.2 16v and 220 miles from a tank of fuel from my modified 172 so unless 20 miles is a big issue to you then it wont cost much more!!!

 

[DB.]

Im getting 300 miles plus to a tank at the moment mate! Better fuel efficiency than my 1.4, and on the motorway its the same story!

 

[Matty_N]

Although if fuel economy was what he wanted I doubt we'd all be having this discussion. He'd just go out and buy a diesel. Oooh idea!!!

Get a Fabia VRS!!!

 

[Martin_172]

Although if fuel economy was what he wanted I doubt we'd all be having this discussion. He'd just go out and buy a diesel. Oooh idea!!!

Get a Fabia VRS!!!

or something that handles, dci 100 for example

 

[Magic Johnson]

No point because he does so little miles?

 

[Martin_172]

it was a joke, a dci is in no way a comparison to a 172!

 

[Magic Johnson]

Oh...hahahaha!

Nice torque though!

 

[Martin_172]

much more torque than a 172

 

[Magic Johnson]

I know, ftw! PM'd!

 

[Pearl_Black]

And my tractor will happily show your 197 a clean pair of heels.

:lolup: Please do......

 

[CharlotteBD]

saxo vts or 182 cup ftw

 

[gaz44]

:lolup: Please do......

More power and twice the torque...smile all you want mate.

 

[Brett]

saxo vts or 182 cup ftw

182FF. Why pay more for a cup badge. Its an inferior car for more money.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

More power and twice the torque...smile all you want mate.

So your modified Ibiza would hassle a standard 197.../

I know we dont exactly get along on here matey but that statement makes precisley no sense? Unless im missing somthing?

 

[Austin-182]

get a 182, why waste time on a saxo or 106? thats the same as i pay and im 22 with 1 year no claims

 

[gaz44]

So your modified Ibiza would hassle a standard 197.../

I know we dont exactly get along on here matey but that statement makes precisley no sense? Unless im missing somthing?

We may have different views on things but I've nothing against you. You have a lot of good things to say.

What makes no sense?

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

We may have different views on things but I've nothing against you. You have a lot of good things to say.

What makes no sense?

Your Cupra TDi has more power than the 197 so i take it its not standard?

Got pics of it mate?

 

[Pearl_Black]

More power and twice the torque...smile all you want mate.

Im not smiling Gaz...Im laughing

 

[Pearl_Black]

[FONT=&quot]Unless you have "modded" The figures dont lie sonny[/FONT][FONT=&quot]




Ibiza Cupra TDI
[/FONT]
Max speed

136.4 miles/h
​

0-100 km/h

7.6 seconds​

118 kw (158hp / 160 ps)​

Torque

330 Nm (243 Lb-Ft)​

Displacement

1.9 liters​

Engine type

Inline 4, Turbocharged, Diesel​

Engine location

Front​

Gearbox

6​

Drive

Front​

Mass

1215 kilograms (2673 lbs)​

Power to Weight ratio

129.89 hp/tonne​

Power per liter

62 kw/liter​

Clio Sport 197

Max speed

134.2 miles/h​

0-100 km/h

6.8 seconds​

Power

145 kw (194hp / 197 ps)​

Torque

216 Nm (159 Lb-Ft)​

Displacement

1.998 liters​

Engine type

Inline 4​

Engine location

Front​

Gearbox

6​

Drive

Front​

Mass

1220 kilograms (2684 lbs)​

Weight distribution

Power to Weight ratio

159.27 hp/tonne​

Power per liter

73 kw/liter​

 

[gaz44]

Your Cupra TDi has more power than the 197 so i take it its not standard?

Got pics of it mate?

It's running approx 204bhp and 300lbs/ft, so no, not standard.

I've got a few pics of it.

 

[gaz44]

[FONT=&quot]Unless you have "modded" The figures dont lie sonny[/FONT]




[FONT=&quot]Ibiza Cupra TDI[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Max speed[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]136.4 miles/h (220 km/h)[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]0-100 km/h[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]7.6 seconds[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]118 kw (158hp / 160 ps)[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Torque[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]330 Nm (243 Lb-Ft)[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Displacement[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1.9 liters[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Engine type[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Inline 4, Turbocharged, Diesel[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Engine location[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Front[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Gearbox[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]6[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Drive[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Front[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Mass[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1215 kilograms (2673 lbs)[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Power to Weight ratio[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]129.89 hp/tonne[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Power per liter[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]62 kw/liter[/FONT]​

Clio Sport 197

[FONT=&quot]Max speed[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]-[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]0-100 km/h[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]6.8 seconds[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Power[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]145 kw (194hp / 197 ps)[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Torque[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]216 Nm (159 Lb-Ft)[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Displacement[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1.998 liters[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Engine type[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Inline 4[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Engine location[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Front[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Gearbox[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]6[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Drive[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Front[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Mass[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1220 kilograms (2684 lbs)[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Weight distribution[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Power to Weight ratio[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]159.27 hp/tonne[/FONT]​

[FONT=&quot]Power per liter[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]73 kw/liter[/FONT]​

Yes, slightly modded thanks. So what? I didn't say it was standard, you assumed this.

 

[Magic Johnson]

Getting a bit sidetracked fellas, non?

 

[gaz44]

Getting a bit sidetracked fellas, non?

Very!

Pearl_black's fault!!

 

[Pearl_Black]

Very!

Pearl_black's fault!!

I will happily take the blaim for the side track if you admit being full of s**t :rasp:

 

[Magic Johnson]

LOL nobody's fault really!

Don't want to see another topic locked though, quite interested to see what choice the OP makes.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Ah right Gaz i thought you had a 330i for some reason...?

 

[gaz44]

I will happily take the blaim for the side track if you admit being full of s**t :rasp:

Not believe me? Or are you now backing down?

 

[gaz44]

Ah right Gaz i thought you had a 330i for some reason...?

I sold that in June.

 

[Pearl_Black]

Not believe me? Or are you now backing down?

:nono: no sir, Would still leave that tractor of yours in my rear view

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Cool...!

Well just to clarify my point, i really dont see the point in comparing one modified car to a standard one as its hardly a like for like comparisson.

Thats like saying my turbocharged 106 GTi will happily piss all over your standard Clio 172, well yes, its modified/adapted/fettled to move across tarmac at a quicker rate of knots than yours etc, this has always been an argument i do not agree with as its not cricket in terms of like for like.

Im not doubting your Cupra is quick, not atall, but without any disrespect 'flame' others into a dis agreement over which is quicker is a little daft ?

 

[gaz44]

Cool...!

Well just to clarify my point, i really dont see the point in comparing one modified car to a standard one as its hardly a like for like comparisson.

Thats like saying my turbocharged 106 GTi will happily piss all over your standard Clio 172, well yes, its modified/adapted/fettled to move across tarmac at a quicker rate of knots than yours etc, this has always been an argument i do not agree with as its not cricket in terms of like for like.

Im not doubting your Cupra is quick, not atall, but without any disrespect 'flame' others into a dis agreement over which is quicker is a little daft ?

Agreed on all points. Although comments like..."I cant see how you can actually say that, and coming from a tractor driver to!" fromidiots who think their Clio is the best car on the road and faster than most cars, when my diesel would leave it. Not too worry...

19 and buying a Clio, eh?! Good one!

 

[gaz44]

:nono: no sir, Would still leave that tractor of yours in my rear view

How, exactly?

 

[Gally]

Agreed on all points. Although comments like..."I cant see how you can actually say that, and coming from a tractor driver to!" fromidiots who think their Clio is the best car on the road and faster than most cars, when my diesel would leave it. Not too worry...

19 and buying a Clio, eh?! Good one!

Danny has a 106gti by the way.

 

[gaz44]

Danny has a 106gti by the way.

Yeah, the quote was from Pearly black.

 

[Alan]

Agreed on all points. Although comments like..."I cant see how you can actually say that, and coming from a tractor driver to!" fromidiots who think their Clio is the best car on the road and faster than most cars, when my diesel would leave it. Not too worry...

19 and buying a Clio, eh?! Good one!

Yeah...thats pretty much my works...also gets more ass than a toilet seat..

 

[EngineerD]

fromidiots who think their Clio is the best car on the road and faster than most cars, when my diesel would leave it. Not too worry...

This is ClioSport! What did you expect?

[FONT=&quot]The figures dont lie sonny[/FONT]

Yes because manufacturers never lie...

 

[gaz44]

Yeah...thats pretty much my works...also gets more ass than a toilet seat..

Been getting bummed in your mini adventure?

Yeah, the works is a nice car. Pity about the looks! (IMO)

 

[alex-avfc]

Gaz44, do you not like your car? Because you always seem very self defensive about it, in relation to other cars like you need to prove a point all the time? Just something that comes across...

 

[gaz44]

Gaz44, do you not like your car? Because you always seem very self defensive about it, in relation to other cars like you need to prove a point all the time? Just something that comes across...

I can't help myself. I on medication for it though.

Do I not like it? No.

When was I self defensive about it?

 

[alex-avfc]

Erm...at several points in this thread for one. Lose the attitude, I'm not knocking your car in any way, it just seems to be a chip on the shoulder mentality common with a lot of diesel drivers.