lol, have you actually tried it when moving? it shouldnt work when the vehicle is moving.
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lol, have you actually tried it when moving? it shouldnt work when the vehicle is moving.
182 Trophy
but the golf weighs as much as the moon and how are you putting a 2.0turbo in the same catogory as the n/a 197. Its technicly in the meggys class but the golfs so slow that it couldnt keep pace with anything in the clios class. 197 would hammer a new golf round any track imo
197
I know stuff all about cars so I won't argue the merits of power/speed of one over another. However, having seen literally hundreds of BMW mini drivers I have to say that I am glad I don't fall into that dynamic.
200
lol, have you actually tried it when moving? it shouldnt work when the vehicle is moving.
Yes dude, it turns the car off
Everybody buys their own car for a reason, new or old. Whether its cheaper than others or this has more spec than that. Its what you can afford, what you like, how you want to drive it. All cars have advantages and disadvantages. All manufacturers have a certain area where their money is spent. Comparing cars is like comparing mens dicks. All different. All cars have their problems, yet some have none. People tune and change things on their cars to make them how they want it. Most arguements on forums are down to taste and opinion. Thats what everyone is here for. If you won the lottery tommorow, i know most people's opinions would change, but its like waiting for anything else to be perfect.
Is it? Can't say I've really tried this before but you sound experienced.
I like the 197 better than the 200 in terms of looks but I think the mpg on both cars is terrible. A car of that size shouldn't be that bad imo. I guess the weight plays a part. 1*2's were the perfect balance between performance and economy.
Gaz_
ClioSport Club Member
Extreme mode
............Now what do they say about Pots and Kettles....?
I remember a certain member BLINDED by Trophy love
Gaz_
ClioSport Club Member
Extreme mode
Not when its moving you tard!!
lol, i thought that, if it does, its fooked!
My only gripe with the 197, and where i feel it missed the mark was with the terrible idle problem from cold. OK, so this was resolved to a fairly acceptable level with the patch fix, but it should not have been released with such crap characteristics IMO.
That being said, the 182 and 172 were no better. They had all sorts of quality issues.
Overall i think the 197 was deffo an advancement over the 172 and 182 having owned them too, but its a shame Ren could not have made more of an effort with the engine characteristics.
In terms of economy, maybe you dont buy a sports car for the MPG, but my 3.0 BMW auto is way more rapid, and i'm seeing a better MPG combined than the 197.
That being said, the 182 and 172 were no better. They had all sorts of quality issues.
Overall i think the 197 was deffo an advancement over the 172 and 182 having owned them too, but its a shame Ren could not have made more of an effort with the engine characteristics.
In terms of economy, maybe you dont buy a sports car for the MPG, but my 3.0 BMW auto is way more rapid, and i'm seeing a better MPG combined than the 197.
This months Evo mag happens to have laptimes around the Bedford West Circuit of both cars:
VW Golf GTI (Mk6) 1.32.4
Renaultsport Clio 197 Cup 1.34.2
Although I'm sure it was a hell of a lot more fun in the clio, and absolutely the one I would have on my driveway!
