Ive just been looking on youtube for 197's and R26's, and viewed both on fifth gear posts. The standard 197 lapped the same track as the R26 1.5 seconds slower. Over several laps thats quite a lot, but still thought it would be a lot slower due to suspension set up, bhp, and turbo. Wonder whether an R27 would close the gap???
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Former R27 & Mk1 V6 owner
depends on the track really, tight and twisty short track and the R26 loses its edge so will be a closer match, on a long circuit such as an F1 track the R26 would easily have the legs on the 197.
no, it would be closer on a twisty track than a long open one but the R26 would still beat it, although its bigger and more lardy it has the torque an power out of corners and the LSD to keep that power down so it has no trouble.
As the figures above suggest, it would be close ( i think those times were on a short track though) but given a track like spa and the difference is all too obvious, the cup being the same setup as the R27.
But then it is a more expensive car and the flagship renaultsport so you would expect that really.
i'd have the R27 with an LSD and the meganes engine, now that would be a car!
i was told by a guy that wrks for reno that thers no diff beyween the original 197 & the R27 which is y they brought out the cup, because a lot of people had said that they didnt notice much difference with the R27 which promted reno to bring out the cup
is that not right?
yea i kno the difference between the R26 & R27 but he asked at the beginning would a R27 close the gap on the R26, which is y im sayin what ive been told
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^tard.
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No; R27 has Cup suspension, which is now on the 197 Cup and available on the std 197 as an option.
takes one 2 know 1
we'd have to see the R27 v R26, if the standard is only 1.5 secs slower, i think it would be a fun race. The megane must really struggle to put the power down or the extra weight is a problem, unless the 197 is just a better overall handling car? hmmm........ 172 cup v R26.......:S
MG ZS180 Mk2
The lap times I quoted were from the Bruntingthorpe track that had 2 long straights, a few fast corners, some tight corners and a couple of chicanes. I wouldn't call it a twisty track by any means.
Pic of it here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...,-1.127815&spn=0.022316,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=0
Times for Civic 'R, Pug, VXR's, Mazda 3 MPS and Cupra's were around the 1:27.50+ mark.
Pic of it here:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...,-1.127815&spn=0.022316,0.05785&t=h&z=14&om=0
Times for Civic 'R, Pug, VXR's, Mazda 3 MPS and Cupra's were around the 1:27.50+ mark.
Sunflower & Golf Mk6 BMT
How many times have you been told the R27 has cup suspension? FFS.
R27 is a FF197 with cup packs esstentialy.
