2014 F1 V6 Turbo Engines

[.Tyler]

I think it's that time we'll start seeing and hearing more about these new "Power Units".

Some of you will have heard the clip of Renault's effort recently, (on a test bench) which they claim they weren't giving it beans.

Below is a dyno sound clip of Merc's with a mock up of the Monza circuit. I can't make my mind up whether I hate the sound or if I'll just put up with it. I'm still in the "Bring back the V10s camp" and while the current V8s are nothing compared to the V10s, they're still bloody impressive when you're at the circuit.

I suppose if these still make ears bleed when they fly past and crackle on downshifts, and I'm guessing they're still going to be loud, then I won't mind too much.

600HP, ERS replacing KERS giving double the boost (160HP) and more torque, prompting Pirelli to want to make the rear tyres wider, should at least keep things exciting...

 

[AdamR]

Just sounds a bit too much like a blender

 

[scott.p]

Until the first test nothing you see or hear will be 100% genuine anyway. No engine manufacture is going to risk revealing anything.

 

[philmots]

All just seems a bit naff to me.. 600/700 hp for F1 is lame IMO. Specially with what road cars make these days.

Should have regulations (turbo or not - not arsed) where 1000hp is just about atainable in qualifying trim.

 

[.Tyler]

Until the first test nothing you see or hear will be 100% genuine anyway. No engine manufacture is going to risk revealing anything.

Of course, and we're obviously not going to get totally accurate idea until they're in the cars and doing laps of a track.

I'm just highly intrigued!

 

[DaveDreads]

When did they invent invisible nose cones?

 

[coleman]

When did they invent invisible nose cones?

​That is footage from a sim the drivers use.

 

[DaveDreads]

No sh*t.

 

[coleman]

Honest..

 

[kpowell911]

Wont ever be like this again

[youtube]RqaJKTRs-Kg[/youtube]

 

[coleman]

Are they V12's? That guy has some really good vids on his channel!

 

[kpowell911]

Are they V12's? That guy has some really good vids on his channel!

The Ferraris are the V10s from 2002/3 I believe.

F2002 with Schumacher was a beast combo!

 

[Bren Rogers]

iirc the new 2014 V6s won't be revving past 15000.. also I think there is a turbo rpm limit.

 

[kpowell911]

Obviously, Specs are pretty secret, but is there anywhere I can learn the specs of previous F1 engine such as the F2002 V10?

 

[jam.]

Excuse my ignorance, but why are they shifting down to V6s?

 

[kpowell911]

Excuse my ignorance, but why are they shifting down to V6s?

The FIA has announced the intention to change the 2.4-litre V8 engines to 1.6 litre V6 turbo engines including energy recovery systems [SUP][16][/SUP] and containing fuel flow restrictions, in order to make Formula One more environmentally aware and to attract more commercial partners for 2014. The engines would also be limited to 15,000 rpm. In addition to the current suppliers, a new company, Propulsion Universelle et Récupération d'Énergie (PURE), has been founded to produce the 2014-specification engines, in the ex Toyota F1 base in Cologne.[SUP][17][/SUP] The new formula is set to reintroduce turbocharged engines, which last appeared in 1988, have their efficiency improved by turbo-compounding and introduce more energy recovery systems – with power to be harvested from the brakes and exhaust gases.[SUP][18][/SUP] The original proposal for four-cylinder turbocharged engines was not welcomed by the racing teams, in particular Ferrari. Adrian Newey stated during the 2011 European Grand Prix that the change to a V6 enables teams to carry the engine as a stressed member, whereas an inline 4 would have required a space frame. A compromise was reached to adopt V6 turbocharged engines instead.[SUP][18]

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[jam.]

fanks keef.

I can't get on the internet to google it.

 

[nick172sport]

Wont ever be like this again

[youtube]RqaJKTRs-Kg[/youtube]

​Pops and bangs remap?

 

[DaveDreads]

What's this about, it reads like there's only one engine builder but I know that's not right?

In addition to the current suppliers, a new company, Propulsion Universelle et Récupération d'Énergie(PURE),
has been founded to produce the 2014-specification engines, in the ex Toyota F1 base in Cologne.[SUP][17][/SUP]

 

[.Tyler]

What's this about, it reads like there's only one engine builder but I know that's not right?

Supposed to have been a new company building engines but they're not now iirc. Honda are building them from 2015 for McLaren afaik...

 

[DaveDreads]

Ahh so they were meant to be an extra manufacturer on top of Merc, Ferrari & Renault?

 

[.Tyler]

Yeah I think they had to can it due to funding

 

[Flat Eric]

F1 is always changing IMO. I can't keep up

It'll be interesting how they drive, turbo lag? Lol

 

[Rhys Beal]

V10's sound good but you can't have proper F1 without a V12


[video]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YluCEXKneyg[/video]

 

[McGherkin]

All just seems a bit naff to me.. 600/700 hp for F1 is lame IMO. Specially with what road cars make these days.

Seriously? Jesus wept, that's s**t.

Should have regulations (turbo or not - not arsed) where 1000hp is just about atainable in qualifying trim.

Or just in regular race trim


This will be s**t compared to the proper turbo era.

 

[matt91]

losing interest in F1 now, used to love it but all this energy green shite is starting to kill it off imo... bring back v10's at least!


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[Xanda73]

Far more energy is wasted in the F1 factories and in moving the stuff around the world than 22 cars ever use being driven 300 miles 20 times a year, so the savings likely to be made are moot. Tyres lasting 30 miles really aren't great for the environment, even if they are fully recycled. How much energy does it take to produce and move them around the globe? FIA are full of s**t with their 'green' ideas.

 

[.Tyler]

I agree! And all the cost cutting is nonsense too. These new engines have cost teams a fortune!

Something else which is funny is at the moment each driver can use no more than 8 engines in a season. This is going down to 5!

 

[Oldskoolbaby]

I don't watch female tennis games for the sport, I watch it for pert asses and funny noises. Similarly, I don't watch F1 these day for the sport, I watch it for amazing looking cars and incredible noises. Over the last few years, both those trates of F1 have disappeared. And why???.......the fecking do-gooding Greenpeace brigade working in the FIA offices.


I think I'll stick to female tennis on Eurosport from now on..

 

[Rubicon_]

This is ridiculous. One of the main loves for me is the noise, especially live! Ill have to give it a chance next year, but at this current time I am gutted

 

[James28]

Far more energy is wasted in the F1 factories and in moving the stuff around the world than 22 cars ever use being driven 300 miles 20 times a year, so the savings likely to be made are moot. Tyres lasting 30 miles really aren't great for the environment, even if they are fully recycled. How much energy does it take to produce and move them around the globe? FIA are full of s**t with their 'green' ideas.

The main reason is not to actually make it more environmentally friendly. Its more from a sponsor point of view. You only see the cars going round the track on TV, none of the other stuff, so sponsors/investors should be more attracted as they will be 'seen' to be supporting a greener sport on TV

 

[Dink]

1000bhp/l is where it should be :evil:

i mean they must be getting up into double figures on the mpg stakes:dapprove:

 

[theduck]

Didn't realise they had dropped the inline 4 and moved to V6s. Does seem strange to drop the engine sizes so much though.

 

[sparey]

To be honest I'm all for the move to turbo engines. Part of the reason for the change is to develop new technology for road cars which has got to be a good thing what with the trend for downsizing and turbocharging. Completely agree that they should be producing far more power though, the restrictions on the cars are far too limiting.

 

[Marky_]

The idea is also to bring in more manufacturers as well.
Turbo v6s are why Honda are coming back.

We'd all love to have the screaming V10s back but sadly they're just not relevant anymore.

 

[Dink]

a v6 @ 20krpm with 4 bar being shoved into it would sound good but there not going to allow it:dapprove:

 

[Detail Chris]

f**k of FIA what a bunch on gays. Bring back the v10's!

 

[rsRob]

Bit more info / engine noise of the 2014 RS34 engine - not feeling that tbh...

 

[Munson]

TBH if people are moaning about new school, they'd do well to remember that BMW were building 1.5 litre 4 banger turbo F1 engines in the 1980s.

Don't really know what everyone's so worried about. It's not like they're gonna be slow. Most people are probably just pissed that they now have even less reason to drone on about how awesome naturally aspirated engines are

 

[McGherkin]

TBH if people are moaning about new school, they'd do well to remember that BMW were building 1.5 litre 4 banger turbo F1 engines in the 1980s.

Yes, but they were pushing out double the horsepower that these ones will!