997 Turbo vs BMW M5

[Rob_]

Nice video courtesy of m5board.com showing a tuned M5 vs a 997 turbo from 50kmh up to 250kmh

Impressed with the 997, very evenly matched though :approve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG0knICW_bs

 

[cliobritt]

Sweet.

 

[Dan R]

Its not a standard m5 tho. its gota different exhaust and map etc. over 50 hp up on a standard m5

 

[Rob_]

No one said it was a standard M5. Hence why i said was impressed with the 997

The M5 is 50bhp up mid range and 30bhp top end. Its had racing cats, different exhaust system, remap and a set of new cams

 

[C.slicker]

The M5 is a bloody animal.

 

[Dan R]

The M5 is a bloody animal.

Oh yes! awesome!

 

[Dan R]

A good customer of ours where i work has got a 997 turbo and i went out in it recently. I have to say its epic!!!! no need for anything more.

 

[kpowell911]

Its got a 12,500 euro Kelleners tuning package. Still cheap for what is essentially a saloon that eats Super cars

 

[gaz44]

Turbo is fecking awesome!

 

[Bradharding]

Would have the 997 turbo over the M5 any day of the week. Is a monster though!

 

[Graham Gooch]

It took 50bhp more to keep up though! lol

I'd have the tuned m5 purely from a sound perspective.

 

[Josh220]

love the 997. M5 impressive though

 

[kissmyrs]

977 turbo is the shiz, love it

 

[Dan R]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvZCYH37DBQ

Listen to this m5 for noise. Probably the best car ive ever heard!!!!!

 

[Graham Gooch]

^^ Sounds a tad throaty and V8, i prefer it when it wails!

 

[Brown.]

i just cum on the over run

 

[R20 CWH]

M5s = the berries.

love them so much

 

[2005_dynamique]

My fav m5 exhaust sound

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=50pxfhMpyUU

 

[Beefmeister]

Having done quite a few miles in both, I can say that as good as the M5 is, even when tuned i imagine, it can't come close to the 997tt.

The Turbo is mind-bendingly fast - i timed it at 8.2 to 100, that is seriously quick. The mid-range shove in the gut as you floor it in 3rd is insane...

And for those wondering how i've driven these (plus, hmmm, let me think - Gallardo Spyder, Murcielago, Fezza F430 Spider, Aston AMV8 etc etc) look here:

http://www.ecurie25.co.uk

I'm on my second year's membership...

Attached some pictures. 997tt in work car park, me in the Aston, Gallardo Spyder etc...

 

[gaz44]

Bammy Jastard! I would have the 911 Turbo over all of the above.

 

[Rob_]

How can you say an M5 wouldnt come close to a 997 even if the M5 is tuned.

Have you actually watched the vid lol they are side by side

 

[gaz44]

Aerodynamics - 911 would start to pull away. Just a guess. More torque too

 

[Rob_]

Like i say have you watched the video??

Your commenting that a 997 turbo would easily leave an M5 yet the video clearly shows otherwise

 

[gaz44]

It wasn't my comment. It wouldn't clearly leave the M5 bit it would eventually. Especially after 155mph, lol

 

[Rob_]

If the limiters still in place yeah lol

If it isnt the M5 will keep going to 205 whereas the 997 will get to 193.

One of these would do nicely

The World’s Only Turbocharged V10 M5
Currency Motor Cars is proud to introduce the first of an unprecedented line of supercars. This flagship model is an ingeniously modified 2006 BMW M5 that can reach a top speed of 240 mph. This makes it the fastest, most powerful luxury 4-door sedan on the planet.

MAKE: BMW
MODEL: M5 E60
YEAR: 06 / 07
COLOR: Black
WEIGHT: 1830 kg
VEHICLE TYPE: 4-Door Sedan
ENGINE TYPE: High Compression V-10
COMPRESSION RATIO: 12.0:1
DISPLACEMENT: 4.999 cc
MAX POWER (bph): 810 hp
MAX TOURQUE (lp-ft): 733
VALVETRAIN: Four (4) valves per cylinder
TRANSMISSION: 7-Speed SMGIII
SUSPENSION: Koni struts and dampers, H&R Coilover springs, lowered by 1.5”
BRAKES (front / rear): Fourteen inch (14”) rotors
WHEELS: Asanti 120, 3-piece forged wheels (20-inch diameter)
TIRES: Pirelli P-Zero Nero
0 – 60: 3.6 Seconds
TOP SPEED: 240 MPH (est)
TURBOS: Custom CMC twin turbo design
INTERCOOLER: Custom CMC inter-cooled system (hand-crafted)

 

[Beefmeister]

How can you say an M5 wouldnt come close to a 997 even if the M5 is tuned.

Have you actually watched the vid lol they are side by side

Sorry, there's been a crossing of wires here...

I'm not talking about the performance, i'm talking about overall - living with it, driving b-roads, servicing etc etc.

The tuned M5 is just that - tuned. Therefore has no warranty. Plus they need servicing more regularly than the 997tt.

I'd take the 997 any day, as frankly it'd eat that M5 alive on anything other than a straight drag.

I'm not surprised with the result of that video though- if you look at the raw data the tuned M5 has a similar Power/weight but has the advantage of the quicker shifts of the SMG 'box.

Power/weight:

M5 (standard) = 273.2
M5 (tuned) = 300.5
997 Turbo = 308.3

 

[Beefmeister]

Bammy Jastard! I would have the 911 Turbo over all of the above.

Believe me, if you drive a 515bhp V10 Gallardo Spyder at full chat, with the roof down you may change your mind.....

The noise is just awesome - i averaged 8.5mpg over the weekend I had it, just because i kept slowing down, slipping it into 2nd, and booting it again..... :evil:

Attached are some of the other cars i've had.

Should be getting the Audi R8 soon....

 

[Rob_]

Ahhh i get ya now

P.S You must be well off to afford the 10k yearly membership of that supercar club

 

[Beefmeister]

Not really - honest!

There are guys on here who go out and buy a Megane F1 at £18k on PCP, and spend £12k over 3 years and don't own any of it. Others bought Clio V6's new at £25k and spent a fortune running them every year.

I spent £5k on my 172 daily driver, then £10k on my membership. If you take into account that servicing, insurance, tyres etc are all taken care of, its not that bad a deal. Yeah I don't own anything at the end of the year, but i've had hassle and stress free driving of £100k+ cars, yay!

Last year I had 38 days driving supercars, and i'm on track for about the same this year. I think its a bargain, but then some people think i'm a foolish gimp! lol

For me its perfect - as a petrolhead I get to hoon around in cars I could never dream of affording. Plus its not just the supercars.

Last new year i went to a wedding on a country estate in Somerset - car of choice? Bentley Conti GT.

Stag do with a few mates in Sheffield? Range Rover Sport Supercharged.

Day off in the summer with nowt to do? Caterham CSR260.

A week driving around North Wales? Porsche Cayman S.

I bloody love it, and barring anything nasty like a wedding, i'll be signing up for a third year...

 

[Ian_182]

I agree with what you say.Its like an expensive leese scheeme.

If my wife would let me i would do it.lol

ian

 

[Beefmeister]

I agree with what you say.Its like an expensive leese scheeme.

If my wife would let me i would do it.lol

ian

She's insured to drive them too!!!

If she has an ounce of petrolheadedness about her, that should sell it!

My OH was against it, so i joined anyway (and took the days of sub zero shoulders), but she soon changed her mind when she took the F430 Spider away to a spa weekend she was going on!!

True about the lease thing too. I know a couple of guys who have Porsche/Astons on lease of £1000/month, so compared to them I think i've got the better deal! Okay so i don't have the cars 24/7, but then mon-fri all i really do is drive to work and back anyway!

 

[gaz44]

Bammy Jastard! I would have the 911 Turbo over all of the above.

Believe me, if you drive a 515bhp V10 Gallardo Spyder at full chat, with the roof down you may change your mind.....

The noise is just awesome - i averaged 8.5mpg over the weekend I had it, just because i kept slowing down, slipping it into 2nd, and booting it again..... :evil:

Attached are some of the other cars i've had.

Should be getting the Audi R8 soon....

Sorry, 911 would still have it. Gallardo is very nice but there is something special about the Porsche. The design is amazing, to go with the performance. The Lambo is too modern and square. It may sound better but I would choose the 911. It's maybe the most complete supercar you can buy (assuming we are not car clubbing it). Cost and daily usage included. I wouldn't turn down a Gallardo but it just doesn't tick all the boxes for me.

 

[Beefmeister]

Oh hell yeah. If it was my £100k on the line, and my only everyday car, i'd go for the 997tt in a heartbeat.

Its epic.


But if I could have, say, an RS4 Avant as my daily driver, the Gallardo Spyder would get my money

 

[gaz44]

Fair enough.

Then I would be looking at Carrera GT, money being no object. Clio as my daily drive.

 

[Beefmeister]

Incidentally, had the Audi R8 this weekend - fooking amazing car, truly blew me away.

Looks like its from 20yrs from now....

Here's a full writeup if you're interested:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=429062

 

[Rob_]

Great writeup mate read it yesterday

 

[tommyboy]

Immense!

 

[Phill1978]

btw the M5board is truley the most biased ive ever seen. they pit a new beemer against any car on a drag strip and then the bmw amazingly wins ! including E55 amg with stage 3 tune pushing 580bhp 620lbft !

its not as fast as a 911 turbo the m5 yet they seem to think it is ?

stupid site speading bullshit around the world in the form of wrong youtube vids

 

[gaz44]

You can't take those M5 dudes anywhere!

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

I'm a member on m5board.com, good collection of videos from that test.

Still to this day suprises me, you wouldn't think 30hp would make such a difference, an F430 monsters the M5 in any situation, and the 997 is certainly as quick as, if not quicker than the rari.