Advice on brake bleeding process for 182 [with ABS]

[Davyboy888]

Yes you need to bleed each wheel in the order they tell you. It's step by step process. RS Tuner is the same.

 

[Brit]

Yes you need to bleed each wheel in the order they tell you. It's step by step process. RS Tuner is the same.

Fantastic, looks like I’ve got there in the end 🤣 how did you find your battery handled going through the test?

 

[Davyboy888]

Great news. The battery was fine to be fair but it's always been lazy turning over on starting - even though the battery is brand new - so I think there may be an earthing issue [common on these 182s] and I'm going to replace the earth cable at some stage.

 

[Brit]

yeah mine is a touch lazy too, think I’ll leave it that way until I can be bothered to go at the car again

My plan is to connect a pressure bleeder (decent pump one) with 5L of regular DOT4 to go through to get all the air out and then fill the last 1.5L with Motul RBF600

Does that sound about right to you? I’m at my wits end with this now so just want to get it right first time 🤣

 

[Brigsy]

Yeah use cheap dot4 until pedal is good, then fill/bleed with the good stuff.

Battery should be fine whilst bleeding abs with diag on, its only a ten min job. If battery is a bit iffy, stick a charger on it whilst running the diag.

 

[Davyboy888]

@Brit as @Brigsy said run regular Dot4 through it until the pedal's good and then use the Motul at the end.

It's a real pain the first time you do it, but I've done it a few times now and I've got it licked.

 

[Brit]

cheers for the help @Brigsy @Davyboy888 ! That is Saturdays job sorted and I can call off the recovery to my local RS specialist

 

[Yarp]

Great news. The battery was fine to be fair but it's always been lazy turning over on starting - even though the battery is brand new - so I think there may be an earthing issue [common on these 182s] and I'm going to replace the earth cable at some stage.

Always worth a quick double check but a lazy battery might not always be the battery. The 1x2 alternators sometimes seem to lose the plot and start drawing voltage when the engine is off. I’ve had 2 do it on mine over the years - proper irritating.

 

[Davyboy888]

Always worth a quick double check but a lazy battery might not always be the battery. The 1x2 alternators sometimes seem to lose the plot and start drawing voltage when the engine is off. I’ve had 2 do it on mine over the years - proper irritating.

Thanks so much for that. That's an interesting one alright... I was originally thinking it might be that - as it's positioned in the firing line for all the weather etc... - but I noticed the battery cable was a tad warm the other day after I started it. I agree, it's not the battery itself. What did you do in the end ? New alternator or recon ?

Thanks again for this.

 

[Yarp]

Thanks so much for that. That's an interesting one alright... I was originally thinking it might be that - as it's positioned in the firing line for all the weather etc... - but I noticed the battery cable was a tad warm the other day after I started it. I agree, it's not the battery itself. What did you do in the end ? New alternator or recon ?

Thanks again for this.

The first time I wasn’t 100% sure so just swapped it for a 2nd hand one. I could measure a voltage drain that seemed to go with the alternator was disconnected but was still not totally sold it wasn’t something else as not seen that before. Anyway, problem solved until a couple of years later when that one started doing it too. I’ve not swapped it yet but will be fitting a new one when the engine goes back in.

 

[Brit]

Evening Gents, found time to do the bleed this afternoon and thought I’d let you know how I got on…

Good news; Brake pedal restored and the car now stops!

I gave it a few drives around the block and there was a grinding sound at first which got less and less over the 10 mins of driving. New disks on passenger side look like they are wearing evenly with shinier disk starting to appearing all around the contact area. Driver side is more 50/50… with the outer side wearing initially while the inner side is still the new pad matte look but there is some early wear in parts so hoping it’s just a matter of wearing them in

So overall very well only concern for me is the grinding.. hoping that’s just the bedding in part. This is my first time doing new pads, disks and callipers all round so a bit unsure of what to expect

 

[Brigsy]

Double check you have not fitted a pad backwards. I wouldnt expect much noise on new brakes, especially if stock pads

 

[Brit]

Double check you have not fitted a pad backwards. I wouldnt expect much noise on new brakes, especially if stock pads

I’ll check myself again but I am very sure I didn’t 😂 they aren’t stock pads, EBC Yellow Stuffs

 

[Davyboy888]

Glad the pedal is solid, that's a positive.

With new discs and pads there should be no grinding noise at all. EBC pads won't cause grinding.

I'm assuming we're talking about the fronts here ? Did you take the caliper to bits and ensure the sliders are moving smoothly ? These are notorious for seizing and it's definitely worth regreasing them etc... when you've got them apart.

If the rears, then there's all the messing with the handbrake winders. If that's not done right, then you can be left with them dragging.

 

[Brit]

Glad the pedal is solid, that's a positive.

With new discs and pads there should be no grinding noise at all. EBC pads won't cause grinding.

I'm assuming we're talking about the fronts here ? Did you take the caliper to bits and ensure the sliders are moving smoothly ? These are notorious for seizing and it's definitely worth regreasing them etc... when you've got them apart.

If the rears, then there's all the messing with the handbrake winders. If that's not done right, then you can be left with them dragon

Glad the pedal is solid, that's a positive.

With new discs and pads there should be no grinding noise at all. EBC pads won't cause grinding.

I'm assuming we're talking about the fronts here ? Did you take the caliper to bits and ensure the sliders are moving smoothly ? These are notorious for seizing and it's definitely worth regreasing them etc... when you've got them apart.

If the rears, then there's all the messing with the handbrake winders. If that's not done right, then you can be left with them dragging.

Glad the pedal is solid, that's a positive.

With new discs and pads there should be no grinding noise at all. EBC pads won't cause grinding.

I'm assuming we're talking about the fronts here ? Did you take the caliper to bits and ensure the sliders are moving smoothly ? These are notorious for seizing and it's definitely worth regreasing them etc... when you've got them apart.

If the rears, then there's all the messing with the handbrake winders. If that's not done right, then you can be left with them dragging.

Yeah fronts, rears are running new standard brembo pads and OE discs

Calipers had all new slide pins and re-greased and when I rebuilt them and fitted they were sliding freely

 

[Davyboy888]

OK.

Have you done more driving ? Maybe give it 100 miles or so of urban driving with gentle braking to bed them in. If the grinding doesn't stop and/or the pad wear is still very uneven, you'll likely to have to take the caliper off and see if there's something misaligned or wedged in there ?

 

[Brit]

OK.

Have you done more driving ? Maybe give it 100 miles or so of urban driving with gentle braking to bed them in. If the grinding doesn't stop and/or the pad wear is still very uneven, you'll likely to have to take the caliper off and see if there's something misaligned or wedged in there ?

Yeah, that was my plan. I won't be able to during the week but first job come the weekend again to do a proper bedding in procedure for the pads as recommended by EBC. As I said, over the 10 mins I was driving the grinding got less and less and the wear looked like it was getting more and more even... so Friday/ Saturday will be the main test

 

[Davyboy888]

Hopefully it's just bedding in. I've had EBC pads before on my E46 [think they may have been Redstuff] and they bedded in without grinding etc... but maybe YellowStuff and above are different. Fingers crossed for you.

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

When you say grinding, do you mean a bad noise or just the pads riding against the discs, like a light swishing sound?

The latter is normal tbh