Apple TV 3

[C.J]

Yes, rumours only at the moment, but a possibility for an ATV3 announcement next month.

1080p (which I miss from ATV2) and an updated interface would be ideal, ability to use apps would be a bonus.

What would you want/expect from it, since the ATV2?

http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/12/apple...elves-could-see-an-update-next-month-as-well/

 

[Tom]

The 1080p will warrant some extra processing power. Be nice if they gave us 16GB instead of 8GB.

 

[Munson]

Extra processing power as in that which every other media player has had for ages.

 

[Tom]

The A4 can do 1080p, it just wont do it to apple standards. I doubt any ARM based media players exist. Let alone best the ATV2. (which is an iPad in a box)

720p Streamed content is class leading IMHO.

 

[C.J]

Hoping for some news tomorrow.

 

[Millsy]

Hoping for some news tomorrow.

+1

 

[James28]

+ 2 . Although I'd imagine it'd be a while till its Jailbroken. And until then its essentially useless to me.

 

[C.J]

I'll keep my ATV2 for XBMC etc, and an ATV3 for 1080p. They are so small, it's no harm having both.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/6/2849384/sources-apple-tv-update-ipad-3-ipad-hd-lte-verizon-att

 

[sneeks]

+ 2 . Although I'd imagine it'd be a while till its Jailbroken. And until then its essentially useless to me.

Same here. I'm more likely to buy the ATV3 than a iPad 3.

 

[Revels]

I need a tv that can do 1080p before I upgrade

 

[Liquid yellow 182]

These look interesting but I don't really get the main purpose of it, will have to research online.

 

[C.J]

Pleased with the new ATV. Will demote the ATV2 to the bedroom I think.

Fantastic it's priced at £99 again too.

 

[jam.]

Is the only update unique to the new one 1080p support then?

 

[C.J]

Probably. No mention about ATV2.

 

[Revels]

It needs new hardware to be able to handle 1080p so it'll be ATV3 only.

 

[C.J]

I wonder if the newer interface will be on ATV2, probably not, as that's another selling point.

 

[Revels]

It's only software, so I expect it will.

Apple don't abandon products that quickly with regard to updates.

 

[C.J]

Does the original ATV look the same as ATV2? (interface)

 

[Luke.]

Software Update for ATV2 avaliable now, I am downloading it so maybe its something to do with new interface..

 

[C.J]

Let me know what's changed, I won't update as it's JB'd.

 

[James28]

New interface doesn't look as nice IMO:

Just gotta wait for Seas0nPass to Jailbreak it before I even consider upgrading my ATV2 OS.
As far as I can tell only difference is ATV3 can do 1080p? Which I'm not fussed about tbh as I just use it for online streaming.

 

[cava83]

Doesn't seem an amazingly polished interace, it does seem that the only advantage is 1080p, I don't think that's enough for me to buy one.

Wonder if they recalled lots and just changed some of the inside..... shame.

 

[James28]

Have they even changed the inside at all?
I'm guessing they would've had to change it slightly physically to get it to do 1080p,
but anything else, in terms of processor, memory etc?

Edit: answered my own question:

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Now we just need someone to tear one apart to see if the Memory is any bigger!

 

[C.J]

^ Without trying to read your post, what's changed?

 

[James28]

Processor chip, A4 in the old one, A5 single core in the new one.
No one's opened a new one up to see if it possibly has more RAM or different GPU - Yet.
And can obviously do 1080p. Thats it.

 

[cava83]

Processor chip, A4 in the old one, A5 single core in the new one.
No one's opened a new one up to see if it possibly has more RAM or different GPU - Yet.
And can obviously do 1080p. Thats it.

Looks like nothing, apart from the chip.

Some good info here > http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/07/apple-tv-3-impressions-what-took-so-damn-long/

what is annoying, is that ATV2 could read 1080p, but downscaled it.

So realistically, it hasn't really changed.

The interface does look very basic, unlike apple normally.

It's an interesting one, maybe they are just gearing up for the next big apple TV.

 

[Christopher]

I need a tv that can do 1080p before I upgrade

Ouch! :dapprove:

 

[Scrooge]

I might get this tbh.

 

[Luke.]

Let me know what's changed, I won't update as it's JB'd.

ATV2 update contains the new interface, as seen in pictures.. Looks quite nice IMO..

 

[C.J]

ATV2 update contains the new interface, as seen in pictures.. Looks quite nice IMO..

Cheers. Will hold off updating then.

 

[valver lad]

How soon after launch are the atv's usually jailbroken?

Not looked into Apple TV much before, but after the new product's been announced and then looking at jailbroke ATV2's on ebayit really appeal's to me what you can get. £130 for a new box with a tonne of app's already on it!
Just wondering how long version 3 will take to unlock..?

 

[Tom]

TBH, i wouldnt bother with the new one.

 

[valver lad]

TBH, i wouldnt bother with the new one.

Really? Why not? I'm new to the whole ATV device and what goes with it, so im trying to learn as much as i can.

Thought the prospect of a faster and uprated resolution would be really apealing?

 

[Tom]

Depends if you notice. Theres no JB out (yet) for the ATV3 so thats another reason not to.

 

[valver lad]

I probably wouldn't notice tbh as I haven't had a go with one before.

Might just wait till the boxes start getting shipped out into the right people's hands to see what there is to deal with for jailbreaking etc..

 

[James28]

To me. Not worth it whatsoever unless its Jailbroken.
Would be useless to me unjailbroken without things like TVcatchup, Icefilms, Iplayer etc.
Don't have much in the way of stored content, so 1080p doesn't bother me.

Only improvement that'd be useful to me would be an increase in RAM. Though no one knows if Apple have done this yet.

 

[Inactive]

I would only bother getting ATV3 if

1. You're new to Apple TV's
2. It was jailbroke

It's not a worthy upgrade on ATV2.

 

[C.J]

It's not a worthy upgrade on ATV2.

I disagree.

It now means I can watch 1080p content. ATV2 is the only source I currently have, which is still 720p.

Once received, I'm going to do a few tests side by side anyway.

 

[James28]

Cool C.J. Let us know how they compare!
See if its worth upgrading when they jailbreak it.

 

[C.J]

Has anyone received theirs today?

Mine hasn't even been dispatched yet

I'll cancel and pick one up this weekend.