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Clio.
Just finalise and publish the regs, if people don't like it then tough titties.
Thats only way it will ever truely be just down to the driver.
WRX
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Handy for people looking to upgrade licenses as well. I rent an MR2 for two races, cheapest signatures I got.
Clio.
hehe! Arrive and drive? I'd like that, but only if the hospitality was better than some sweaty cheese sandwiches.
182cup & 172 racecar
Firstly, I would like to welcome you Steve and your interest into the proposed series, the more the merrier.
1 Engine power.
standard engine, not one from another car in the range, standard cams and pistons (there are ways of checking), standard inlet manifold, air filter free.
2 Minimum weight.
No, not at the moment. Cars can be weighed at any time, no reason needs to be given.
3 Tyres.
Difficult to tell people that you can only use 6 tyres a year, so no, no rstriction
There may also be a control tyre in the wings (under discussion atm)
4 Buffing
By this, I take it you mean shaving and not out with a tin of boot polish to make them shiny.
If you feel the need to do this then crack on, but with the tyre I'm thinking off it will be a waste of time and money.
5 Gearbox
This will be a standard box ph1 or ph2 I don't really care. but remember the car needs a working dash.
Standard internals and gear ratios.
6 Gear shift
There can be an upgraded gear stick/shift as in quick shift or stiff shift, but remember these boxes are made of chocolate.
7 Shell dipping
Can't really say no, but why, this is bottom end Msport and this is not really in the spirit of what we are about.
8 Suspension
Again, how can I stop you by buying a new set every race, I can't. And yes it will standard suspension without a doubt.
9 Wheel restrictions
15" wheels are your friend, and round would be better. Remember the tyres will be 195-50-15
I hope this has answered some of your questions. If I can be of any further assistance then please don't hesitate to contact me.
Remember, we will have the power to inspect any car at any time, with no warning or need.
Anybody caught acting outside the rules and regs, will be reported to the MSA, which then will usually have a fine and points awarded, and will no longer be able to compete in any more rounds.
I will also have the option to refuse any entry without reason.
Tony
182cup & 172 racecar
That kept you all quiet.
Sounds like a great plan!
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Sounds really good Tony.
I just don't like this one. Don't hate me because of the hat.
I just don't like this one. Don't hate me because of the hat.
182cup & 172 racecar
182cup & 172 racecar
Just answering the questions put forward, loads more in the pipeline but all basic stuff, solid top mounts poly bushing etc.
Not to be a pain, but when do you think we will see a set of regs?
Ill be seeking sponsorship so I would like to go with a spec and costs to get a car ready.
Ill be seeking sponsorship so I would like to go with a spec and costs to get a car ready.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Just an idea Tony, but with this largely (probably) being filled by CS members, it may be an event the club itself could be interested in sponsoring?
182cup & 172 racecar
182cup & 172 racecar
Something else to chuck in the mixing bowl then.
Better get a bigger one.
Better get a bigger one.
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
You sarky old git. I just thought for a race series, largely (at least initally) made up of members (if this thread is anything to go by) then it might be a nice touch.
Unless you have massive tits, I bet you will fail, lol.
182cup & 172 racecar
From what I've put down already, this would give you a very clear indication of the spec the car needs to be. Fkn hell!! I've got a life to live and other stuff going on.
WRX
The rough is a bit overgrown on the 8th. Neglected the last few days apparently.
182cup & 172 racecar
My second cut off switch turned up today. Need to buy the shocks/springs as my coilovers have sold already!
WRX
Jealous Nick but I have patience and it will all be worth it in the end.
I have more awareness of my actions nowadays - and trust me my son can fart louder (and drive faster) than me!
Love you!
Hi Tony,
On a serious note I would be happy to help you with this, it is a great idea to introduce people who would not normally know how to start racing on to the grid. I'll give you a ring to discuss.
Clio 172
Well that escalated quickly. Are there alot of really simple people on cs or is reading no longer a pre requisite for an internet forum? Tony mentioned the spec earlier In the thread whats all the chat asking a million stupid questions. Those that keep talking about cheating the whole concept is cheap racing, if you feel the need to cheat probably not for you. Seriously people grow up its getting beyond the joke, 38 pages and 90% of it is people asking inane questions or repeating whats been asked. Tony tbh if I was you id knock the idea on the head before someone turns up with Schuey as a guest driver.
This thread is pretty funny, people saying I will do it without even thinking half the costs through.
Is CS totally naive, do you really think people will enter this just for fun, fun leads to the aspiration of winning and onto new ways of doing so.
Half the questions asked are relevant. Cheating will always happen especially with the title 'one make series' and a strict list of what and what cannot be done need to be written, you can't just say a standard car it doesn't work that way.
Some have jumped on the bandwagon as well slating others for asking these questions when they will have to be answered at some point but i'm sure Tony will get it all together if you give him time.
Is CS totally naive, do you really think people will enter this just for fun, fun leads to the aspiration of winning and onto new ways of doing so.
Half the questions asked are relevant. Cheating will always happen especially with the title 'one make series' and a strict list of what and what cannot be done need to be written, you can't just say a standard car it doesn't work that way.
Some have jumped on the bandwagon as well slating others for asking these questions when they will have to be answered at some point but i'm sure Tony will get it all together if you give him time.
Simples .... can you afford 10k in year 1 and 7k for each year after as those are pretty realistic start from scratch figures
Fwiw those are similar figures to club racing karts in rotax max at lower end of budgets if people want a comparison
Spec will be as per released regs which tony seems to be slowly putting together but sounds fairly standard
Outside that people who have not raced before will obviously have many questions
Fwiw those are similar figures to club racing karts in rotax max at lower end of budgets if people want a comparison
Spec will be as per released regs which tony seems to be slowly putting together but sounds fairly standard
Outside that people who have not raced before will obviously have many questions
WRX
Well nobody can really do anything until the basics are set in stone. My only concern is that some seem to be trying to go above and beyond the initial idea. I realise that people will push the boundaries of what can be done as someone will always want that extra advantage. It's just that the more you allow, the more the start up cost will be. Like has been mentioned many times, it's because an almost standard car is capable of doing this, that it's been born. The idea is that you buy a car, spend the minimum necessary to meet safety requirements and get out there.
Why does it need complicating?
I reckon I'd have finished in front of about 4 "proper race cars" at Mallory last Saturday. They may have been smaller engined but still a genuine racer. So there would be some achievement there for me. That's the type of thing I want out of it, mixing it with another few similar cars would just add to the enjoyment. I grew up with my dad racing, so I'm well aware of what is involved. I can't afford to compete against the likes of what we used to call the hillclimb top ten "The Big Boys" - In French Trophy those being Tony, James and Ian but I can afford to at least get on the grid.
Why does it need complicating?
I reckon I'd have finished in front of about 4 "proper race cars" at Mallory last Saturday. They may have been smaller engined but still a genuine racer. So there would be some achievement there for me. That's the type of thing I want out of it, mixing it with another few similar cars would just add to the enjoyment. I grew up with my dad racing, so I'm well aware of what is involved. I can't afford to compete against the likes of what we used to call the hillclimb top ten "The Big Boys" - In French Trophy those being Tony, James and Ian but I can afford to at least get on the grid.
