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Ph2 172
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
TBH, after reading the last few, people are right, it won't be difficult to spot the cheats in what is supposed to be an evenly matched field. Have a ban system put in place and point deducted or similar, should secure that it's not worth it.
I look forward to reading Tony's rules and doing some man maths. I was supposed to buy a new car next year, but maybe a year racing would be more fun.
I look forward to reading Tony's rules and doing some man maths. I was supposed to buy a new car next year, but maybe a year racing would be more fun.
Not worth it mate, especially as people will forget all regards for their own safety to find an extra 10th. I prob wont even run camber bolts to be honest!
Very true. I knew their would be a disadvantage I just couldn't think of it.
Keeping it simple is key as well I guess, so better to just rule it out.
Cheating happens in every form of motorsport.... this shouldn't be the "hot topic" of this championship, otherwise people will keep banging on about it during the season. Just trust Tony and the guys running it will do their job properly (which I KNOW they will).
Sooo lets steer this more towards something else maybe? i.e. circuits, roll cages, tyres etc.
(just my 2p worth)
Sooo lets steer this more towards something else maybe? i.e. circuits, roll cages, tyres etc.
(just my 2p worth)
They may not break a rule, its so easy to bend them in different ways.
So much can be done to stop this and must be made clear as possible in the rules!
Tony don't know what he's let himself in for IMO! Don't think he'll loose any sleep of it though!
I agree, no one will cheat much (or even stretch the rules) during the first year or two anyway, it happens later on when things get more competitive normally in these sort of series.
i raced for years in a sealed engine class where every engine was the same ..................... yeah of course they were LOL it became an absolute money pit
of course people will try and spend and sort cars to have the best they possibly can .... most of clio cup is tied down so tight in the regs , yet it will still cost 10 x what this costs !!
Im sure some of the people crashing in clio cup are doing so on purpose to get a nice fresh unfatigued shell out of the sponsor/insurer to get quicker again, not against the rules but not in the spirit of them either!
WRX
Some form of reverse grid, should sort it out to a certain extent. If people really want to go to extremes of a)cheating or b)splashing stupid amounts of cash at it, then let them. They will probably be standing on their own in the paddock. Part of the enjoyment for me will be the banter on the day. As Jay said earlier, the enjoyment will be beating yourself, not cheating yourself. It ain't what you got, it's the way that you use it.
If somebody does appear to stand out, have an independent take it out for a few laps.
I'd feel really good on the top step if I'd cheated or spent 10k more than somebody else. (NOT)
If somebody does appear to stand out, have an independent take it out for a few laps.
I'd feel really good on the top step if I'd cheated or spent 10k more than somebody else. (NOT)
And acheive what?
Even if they come back and go "wow thats a quick little clio" what does that prove?
They vary loads anyway!
Clio cup rules (as others) you must race in the car you qualify in... other wise everyone on the grid must sign a piece of paper agreeing to the change. Between meetings you can swap cars as much as you like, I could buy a new one for each meeting if I had the money!
OMG what a load of b****cks the last 3 pages have been.
Sit tight and be patient for the first draft of the regs to be released and discussed.
It amazes me that people who have never competed in motorsport are already deciding everyone will be cheating and that is not the right attitude especially for a new series. I suggest, stop all this nonsense and let the people with the experience (Tony) and in the know get on with making the decisions. I'm sure much more information will be along shortly.
P.S anyone want the number of a good engine blueprinter?
Sit tight and be patient for the first draft of the regs to be released and discussed.
It amazes me that people who have never competed in motorsport are already deciding everyone will be cheating and that is not the right attitude especially for a new series. I suggest, stop all this nonsense and let the people with the experience (Tony) and in the know get on with making the decisions. I'm sure much more information will be along shortly.
P.S anyone want the number of a good engine blueprinter?
there are always ways within the rules to be faster , people will do them , its racing and therefore a fact of life, but it does not make you a cheat.
there are always the top people in every championship , and i'd stake my christmas dinner on the fact they know things the guys further down the grid have not worked out yet , and thats specifally more the case in any minimal changes allowed fixed championship
imprezaworks
ClioSport Club Member
Mk5 Golf GTI :)
Seems to be getting over complicated
LOL
Lets hope that Tony's series lasts for long enough for that sort of thing to start being useful, all the rule bending that people like Steve are mentioning only get done in established series, so if those sort of things start happening it will show how much people care about the series
it does show how cynical people are Sam .... and i see it as getting everything spot on to get the best out of what you have within the rules and your budget ..... its not cheating but lots see it as thus if the budget is bigger than theirs.
i have no input , as i am racing other non motorised things at the moment .
See post 697
Agreed, Im sure if I had a car with a blue printed engine and more camber than intended etc, you'd still hand me my arse in a legal one.
pipe down, free instruction to everyone ( Until offer ends)
I'm thinking of finding tidiest Trophy I can because V6 spoiler and red paint.
can't see that being fair ........ as a cat d its obviously bent
cosmetic, not structural... stop trolling! LOL
Rob
ClioSport Moderator
Twisted chasis for assisted right hand bends, does suffer a bit going right though! LOL
i have done my best to stay out josh but work is light this afternoon,
i don't miss the you must be cheating comments in parc ferme but would love to get another couple of seasons in before i am like tony and need an annual medical
Using my current 172 Cup which is caged already.
Same on both parts, on the battery front I think you can mount the battery wherever you like having spoken to Tony.
If I do it, I will probably just buy a cheap ph1 to use.
182cup & 172 racecar
At least we are on page 36!!
I will try and answer some questions a little later, but fk me there are some dumb ass suggestions in here.
If I had the space, I would build the cars myself and just turn up with them at a meeting and draw numbers to allocate cars.
That would be fun.
I will try and answer some questions a little later, but fk me there are some dumb ass suggestions in here.
If I had the space, I would build the cars myself and just turn up with them at a meeting and draw numbers to allocate cars.
That would be fun.
That would be cool!
