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Austin-182
ClioSport Club Member
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This is a very interesting thread Mark and all in one page only.
Do you have any plans to sell the V6?
Do you have any plans to sell the V6?
Refreshing to see these boxes aren't as bad as made out to be really.
As far as your induction issue Mark, any scrut will just want to see forward facing lights. Either go with spotlights in the lower grill like a lot of the cup racers used when they went endurance racing or fit one of those induction cones and cut the headlight and fit it through.
Something like this http://www.cliosport.net/threads/headlight-induction.709907/
As far as your induction issue Mark, any scrut will just want to see forward facing lights. Either go with spotlights in the lower grill like a lot of the cup racers used when they went endurance racing or fit one of those induction cones and cut the headlight and fit it through.
Something like this http://www.cliosport.net/threads/headlight-induction.709907/
Yeah, that's cos I don't write about it that often... or even do much on the car that's worth writing about. See we have now bumped over to a second page!
V6 is a keeper, Snappy has the steering wheel right now while its sorned.
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That light does look interesting and was thinking along similar lines. The race series I was going for states:
"MSA compliant headlights are required."
when consulting the Blue book, I take that to mean from J5.14.4 "have glasses of minimum 182.5 sq cm each" Which to me sounds like an awful lot of glass, certainly more than a couple of spotlights in the grill.
Annoyingly, I keep reading threads from those of you in the Triclolor series who are all removing their lights.
The blue book can very hard to define from whats written tbh and I would speak to a couple of scruts of potential race series as it's their personal understanding of the ruling to a certain extent.
I consulted the scruts for the SMRC at Knockhill and they were pretty funny about it so I just plan to chance my luck but also they distinctly said no composite doors yet the tricolore and the CSCC tin tops allow it no problem. I can't see the consitency there given all 3 are tin top championships with an unlimited modification rule except for that of the car silohuette... Again cementing my point it's down to personal understanding of the blue book.
When I say spotlights, these lights have been pretty heavy duty jobs for racing into the night hours or 24 hrs racing. I have tried to find pictures but had no luck. A guy Dave from here, who had them when his cup racer was bought, it had done a bit of everything I believe.
I consulted the scruts for the SMRC at Knockhill and they were pretty funny about it so I just plan to chance my luck but also they distinctly said no composite doors yet the tricolore and the CSCC tin tops allow it no problem. I can't see the consitency there given all 3 are tin top championships with an unlimited modification rule except for that of the car silohuette... Again cementing my point it's down to personal understanding of the blue book.
When I say spotlights, these lights have been pretty heavy duty jobs for racing into the night hours or 24 hrs racing. I have tried to find pictures but had no luck. A guy Dave from here, who had them when his cup racer was bought, it had done a bit of everything I believe.
One of the guys is selling 3! I'm going to look at 2 of his hopefully this week so will take a wonder round the third one whilst I'm there in case it's any good!
Go direct to Bilstein and they can refurb them and test with damper read out. Not that expensive. Dave Masters is the man.
Robmarriott
ClioSport Club Member
Clio 182 Cup
For reference, 182.5sq cm is equal to a circle of 15.25cm diameter, that's pretty much exactly 6 inches so 2 6" spot lights would suffice.
Great stuff Mark! What's your plans for the season?
Millennium Series? I think I might be doing a few of them too so will be good to see you there
Millennium Series? I think I might be doing a few of them too so will be good to see you there
Yes, first race at least and see how it goes from there. still looking to upgrade car to x85 at some point, but concentrating on this one for now. Father and son team!
Great stuff Mark
We've got 3 X85's at the moment! 1 of them is a very straight rolling shell with dampers, uprights, subframe, beam etc which we are selling although I guess you just want an off the shelf X85 ready to race?
3? you don't do things by half's do you! Yes, certainly don't want to be searching for a ST75 in good knick. Hopefully will get some money together later in the year and go for a good one, assuming I don't scratch that ich for a Tattus FR2000 that's been nagging at me in the meantime.
Haha I have a 0KM freshly rebuilt ST75 to go with it
ooops, let the thread slip somewhat....
Entered the first new Millennium series race at Snetterton in April, seems all of the similar cars didn't show so we were well off the pace, Wet practice though saw us qualify mid pack and splitting the 2 Clio X85 cup racers. Trouble was I had a new set of Dunlops Direzzas to scrub in and planned that in qualifying but in the event had to take the start on shiny new rubber on a now almost completely dry track. Plan was to be safe and let anyone bye to save a first corner embarrassment but needn't have worried, had such a bad start (no one kept to the pace speed as told to in the briefing...) that the entire field shot past me anyway and then disappeared into the distance while I was sliding around all over the place. With no one to race with it all became a bit tedious so I decided to come in as soon as the pit window opened, (this is a mandatory pit stop race series with either one or two drivers) to give my son, Ricky, as much track time as possible given it was his first ever race.
Now the only pit stop race I have ever done was the Birkett and in that race, the next driver in line will be helmeted up, strapped in his car and ready to go just in case the previous car has an off or comes in early for some reason. So in I come, at least a lap early only to see Ricky not even helmeted up and even struggling to zip his overalls up. The ensuing rather relaxed pit stop set us back even further than my pathetic driving stint did.
captured on camera too:
After that he set some good lap times although, nowhere near the tin tops Clio times from the earlier race in the day, but caught and passed an ailing Ford Mondeo.
We gave the next Silverstone round a miss and instead took part in our local sprint at Debden airfield in Essex, using a new track for the first time and it suited the Clio well.
2nd in class only beaten by a Lotus by a nats.
Next race will be at Brands Hatch on 31st May.
Entered the first new Millennium series race at Snetterton in April, seems all of the similar cars didn't show so we were well off the pace, Wet practice though saw us qualify mid pack and splitting the 2 Clio X85 cup racers. Trouble was I had a new set of Dunlops Direzzas to scrub in and planned that in qualifying but in the event had to take the start on shiny new rubber on a now almost completely dry track. Plan was to be safe and let anyone bye to save a first corner embarrassment but needn't have worried, had such a bad start (no one kept to the pace speed as told to in the briefing...) that the entire field shot past me anyway and then disappeared into the distance while I was sliding around all over the place. With no one to race with it all became a bit tedious so I decided to come in as soon as the pit window opened, (this is a mandatory pit stop race series with either one or two drivers) to give my son, Ricky, as much track time as possible given it was his first ever race.
Now the only pit stop race I have ever done was the Birkett and in that race, the next driver in line will be helmeted up, strapped in his car and ready to go just in case the previous car has an off or comes in early for some reason. So in I come, at least a lap early only to see Ricky not even helmeted up and even struggling to zip his overalls up. The ensuing rather relaxed pit stop set us back even further than my pathetic driving stint did.
captured on camera too:
After that he set some good lap times although, nowhere near the tin tops Clio times from the earlier race in the day, but caught and passed an ailing Ford Mondeo.
We gave the next Silverstone round a miss and instead took part in our local sprint at Debden airfield in Essex, using a new track for the first time and it suited the Clio well.
2nd in class only beaten by a Lotus by a nats.
Next race will be at Brands Hatch on 31st May.
182cup & 172 racecar
It's all a learning curve.
It sure is Tony and boy did we have an education at Brands Hatch last weekend.
Firstly I have to say I left the driving duties to Riku this weekend, he knows the track and was up for it so I thought why not give him the whole race.
Wet practice saw us qualify 9th out of 32 cars! then an afternoon of "well its stopped raining now" and just as we decided on dry set up the rain returned. So had to make the decision and plumed for a wet set up on the R1r's but almost all the other cars in the assembly area had gone for 888's/Direzzas so thought once again I had main an error on tyre choice by playing safe.
Race start then and somehow we get up to 5th place as everyone else is sliding around. A BMW took out the Mini at Druids and brought out the safety car.... I wanted our car to stay out given the delay in releasing from the pit lane but Riku thought otherwise and pitted un announced (seems like a family trait as I did the same thing on our last race). Although the pit stop went well, a TVR in front of us broke down at pit exit and hence blocked the exit for all behind...... we lost an extra lap on top of the expected lap lost for the pit stop and fell to 23rd place at the green flag. A spirited drive from then on got us up to 14th by the end but we reckon a 3rd or 4th place could of been on the cards had the delay in the pits not happened, a fact born out that we overtook the winning car on the first lap. I guess that's racing.
video from our car:
and from the Mazda RX 8 that we had a race long battle with:
Good to see Bigash turn up on the day too! bring your car next time!
Well. new clio project now arrived so this one is now up for sale, full advert on pistonheads: http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/motorsport/race-cars/tin-tops/clio-cup-racer-x65/4595419
but this thread is probably the best way to know the car.
but this thread is probably the best way to know the car.
Russ Rallye
ClioSport Club Member
Saw the car up for sale Mark, whats the new project, x85?
Russ
Russ
yes Russ. In the end, did toy with the Megane Trophy race car that's for sale but thinks that's a bit much of a car for us!
Russ Rallye
ClioSport Club Member
Look forward to seeing the details.
Russ
Russ Rallye
ClioSport Club Member
Thought that was your car mark, there can't be that many cars left in the UK now, mine went to Poland and the same week it's sister car was totalled.
Russ
Russ
