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CLIO IV RS - Trophy from page 111



The Boosh!

ClioSport Admin
  Elise, Duster
I've been out on track in one. Downshifts are still to slow even in race node
Did you use the multi-downshift (hold the paddle)? Either way it is subjective, I found it to be fine if you manage it correctly. All of the instructors i've spoken to across the UK at the Renaultsport trackways also found it more than good enough.
That said, quicker is better, so we will soon see if this update brings quicker gear changes...
 

-Jamie-

ClioSport Club Member
Nein, I was just a passenger but even sitting with Bo controls it felt slow.

Has anyone managed to crack the box to map the settings? Don't get me wrong it's still a brilliant car and doesn't deserve the bad press it has got and gets but for me I couldn't live with them, especially on track.

I am one of those manual only unless your spending big money kind of w*****s though
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
No Brembos! Shock horror!

Has to be power and 'box (and diff hopefully) if its to warrant the hardcore 'track focused' Trophy name.

If it's just the name and some sticky tyres it would appear that RS have given up on the UK market.

12 hrs and we'll know for sure :smiley:
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
The Trophy name is hardly "track focused" now. Thats what the -R is.

It is according to Jeremy Townsend on the RS forum. Just after the Clio EDC was released he chipped into a conversation to say that the Trophy brand is reserved for the more dedicated, track focused, versions of their cars.

As for the Megane -R being the track brand... that's a Trophy -R is it not?
 
  Volvo XC60 T8
Nein, I was just a passenger but even sitting with Bo controls it felt slow.

Has anyone managed to crack the box to map the settings? Don't get me wrong it's still a brilliant car and doesn't deserve the bad press it has got and gets but for me I couldn't live with them, especially on track.

I am one of those manual only unless your spending big money kind of w*****s though

One of the people on the 197/200 forum has said that renault have released an update for the gearbox, and it made a big difference to his!
 

withoutabix

ClioSport Club Member
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The Boosh!

ClioSport Admin
  Elise, Duster
CLIO RENAULTSPORT 220 TROPHY EDC: A NEW ADDITION TO THE TROPHY FAMILY​

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• Power increased by 10 per cent to 220hp
• ‘Torque Boost’ function raises peak torque by 40Nm to 280Nm
• Refined EDC transmission delivers up to 50 per cent faster shifts
• Larger turbo, new air intake and revised exhaust system
• Stop & Start helps to reduce emissions by 6g/km
• Lower and stiffer Trophy chassis
• Quicker steering rack
• Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres
• Revised sports seats with integrated head rests
• R.S. Drive system with three driving modes
• Special edition version goes on sale in the UK in the Summer

Renaultsport have unveiled a special edition version of the Clio Renaultsport at the Geneva Motor Show – the Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy EDC.

Following in the slipstream of other Trophy models such as the 2005 Clio Renaultsport 182 Trophy, the Mégane Renaultsport 265 Trophy and the current Mégane Renaultsport 275 Trophy the Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy has been finely honed by Renaultsport’s passionate engineers to add even sharper handling, improved driving characteristics and increased performance coupled with exclusivity and distinctive styling.

The Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy is due to go on sale in the summer of 2015 and will offer a number of enhancements including increased power and torque with Stop & Start technology and reduced CO2 emissions. A refined EDC transmission, quicker steering, a lower and stiffer chassis and upgraded tyres will make Renault’s hot hatch even hotter.
220 TROPHY: A CLIO RENAULTSPORT THAT’S EVEN MORE POTENT IN EVERY AREA

Engine

Thanks to revised engine mapping, the 220 Trophy now has 10 per cent more power and up to an extra 40Nm of torque. It also benefits from a larger turbo, an air intake designed to minimise pressure losses and a revised exhaust system to accommodate the latest Euro6 catalytic converter (and minimise back pressure losses).
• Maximum power has been increased to 220hp at 6,250rpm (up 20hp)
• Maximum torque rises to 260Nm (a gain of 20Nm)
• ‘Torque Boost’ feature in fourth and fifth gears raises peak torque to 280Nm (a gain of 40Nm)
• Maximum revs increase from 6,500rpm to 6,800rpm
• Complying with Euro6 emissions standards, the car’s CO2 output improves by 6g/km to 138g/km and also drops down a • VED band

Refined EDC transmission
• Gear shifts are now up to 40 per cent faster in ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’ modes and 50 per cent faster in ‘Race’ mode thanks to software recalibration
• 30 per cent reduction in steering wheel paddle travel for more immediate changes
• Earlier downshifts, for example under heavy braking on track, are permitted by optimised software calibration and the raised rev limit
• ‘Sport’ mode is now more flexible with gearshift change patterns more reactive to current driving style
• A Stop & Start system works in ‘Normal’ mode but is deactivated in ‘Sport’ and ‘Race’ modes.

Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy retains the R.S. Drive system that allows one powertrain to have three different behaviours: Normal, Sport and Race. R.S. Drive also adds Launch Control and the ability to perform multiple down shifts at once by keeping the paddle held. Race mode is fully manual only, has the fastest shift times, no ‘creep’ function and will not change up or down without intervention.

A lower, stiffer Trophy chassis
The Clio is lower by 20mm at the front, 10mm at the rear. Firmer shock absorbers, and revised springs (40 per cent stiffer at the rear), have been fitted and are coupled to the existing motorsport-derived hydraulic bump stops.

Ultra-quick steering
A new, faster rack (with ratio reduced from 14.5:1 to 13.2:1) makes steering even more precise and incredibly direct – the best system on the market.

Tyres
The Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy EDC is fitted with high-performance Michelin Pilot Super Sport 205/40R18 rubber.

IMMEDIATELY RECOGNISABLE…AND SEDUCTIVE

A sporting stance
• Frost White, a new and distinctive Renault i.d. matt body colour with a gloss black roof and rear spoiler, has been added to the range alongside Glacier White, Diamond Black, Flame Red and Liquid Yellow
• 18-inch ‘Radical’ wheels with black inserts and diamond-effect facings
• ‘Trophy’ badging on the front blade, door mouldings and individually-numbered door sills

Equipment tailored to enthusiasts
• Embossed leather steering wheel
• ‘Trophy’ interior pack: Heated leather sports seats with integral head rests, plus carbon-look air-vent surrounds, door handles and gear lever base plate. The air-vent inserts are now in satin chrome rather than anodised red.
• Optional Renaultsport Monitor on-board telemetry system. Potent and fun, its many features include a setting that gives the driver five different levels of throttle pedal sensitivity.

The Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy EDC is a numbered special edition that provides value for money in performance terms. It is aimed at the most demanding customers, such as track-day enthusiasts and those who appreciate the cutting-edge manner of Renaultsport’s unrivalled expertise.

The Clio Renaultsport 220 Trophy EDC will first go on sale in Europe, from June 2015, before being released in 10 other markets.

Further details, including UK specification and pricing, will be made available closer to launch.
 
  Nissan 350z
So its basically the Megane 265 Trophy all over again, ie: remap and unique colour.

I was hoping for Recaros, Ohlins etc (and manual) 😧
 
  Turbo 182 Alfa 159
Interesting that its on a new turbo for such a small power hike.

Tyre choice is cool though! Sounds like it will be a great car.
 

MarkCup

ClioSport Club Member
Why can't Renault get any meaningful torque out of this engine?

Even with the 'overboost' function (available in 4th and 5th gear only) the 280nm is shy of what the ST produces as standard - and after Mountune MP215 the ST has over 320nm.

Compared to the non-overboost 240nm this new more powerful Clio makes that's a mountain of extra torque in the ST.

Notwithstanding that I like what Renault have done here. Chances of finding one to test drive?

LOL
 
  Lotus Elise
Gearbox update is great news! Shame they haven't actually pin pointed what made the previous Trophy, R26.R and Trophy .R so desirable and fed that back to the model planning teams.....

When does the Trophy. R come out?
 

The Boosh!

ClioSport Admin
  Elise, Duster
Notwithstanding that I like what Renault have done here. Chances of finding one to test drive?
LOL
I also share your frustration Mark. So we're doing something about it and I'm working on implementing a Renaultsport network that means something for both the dealers and customers.
 

Chris V6 255

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 255, 182 Trophy
Sounds good to me! Not too hardcore to make it a good daily driver. Save the CS spec & 25k price tag for the R version.
 

Chris V6 255

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 255, 182 Trophy
More info off Pistonheads

PH gets the inside line on the (hopefully) much improved Clio from the boss of Renaultsport
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Ten years ago, in an anonymous glass and steel shed on a forgettable industrial estate on the edge of Paris, a little red hatchback was born that captured the hearts and minds of a generation. It wore pert grey Speedline Turini wheels, hip-hugging Recaro seats, and tucked up inside the hem of its front wings were motorsport-derived remote reservoir Sachs dampers. It was like nothing the hot hatch market had ever seen - a tarmac rally car that could dogfight supercars down a B-road with a boot full of shopping. We're talking, of course, about the Clio 182 Trophy.
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Ride height 20mm lower at front, 10mm behind
A decade later, we're being ushered into that same characterless unit to witness to the birth of a new Clio Trophy. It's fair to say, expectations are high. But, before the big reveal, Renaultsport management is keen to set the record straight about the current Clio 200 EDC. "We believe Clio 4 (RS) is a success; it is the car we wanted to do", explains Regis Fricotte, Sales and Marketing Director, unapologetically. "Clio 3 (RS) was a race car for everyday. With Clio 4 (RS) we wanted to provide a comfortable car for everyday race". As a sales strategy it has worked, driving growth in markets such as Australia and Japan, while maintaining similar volume across Europe. In fact, you may be surprised to learn, as we were, that Renaultsport has sold 10 per cent more Clio 4 RS models than Clio 3, across a similar time frame.
Nevertheless, Fricotte admits, there are some elements of the current Clio 200 that could be improved, particularly for the customer looking for something more dynamic, more radical. That car is the new Clio Trophy, and there's one parked in the workshop next door, finished in special edition Frost White matt paint with contrasting black roof and spoiler.
First impressions are positive. Although the flat, slightly sparkly, finish won't be to everyone's taste, changes to the ride height have created a far more aggressive stance, and the gloss black roof and spoiler help to trim height from the slab-sided profile. Visible through the windscreen, and echoing the front 'blade', are a pair of new seats with integrated headrests, while Trophy decals adorn the side skirts, front blade and numbered sill plates (even though numbers are not actually limited). There are further subtle tweaks to the interior trim and new diamond-effect facings for the 18-inch Radical wheels, but as a styling job it manages to differentiate itself from the standard car, yet remain reasonably restrained.
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Faster and more efficient - win!
If you were expecting the new Clio Trophy to - like its predecessor - prickle with trick, bespoke parts, you may be disappointed. This is, for the most part, a recalibration job. Yes, there are new components, but none of them are stamped with Sachs, Ohlins, Recaro or Brembo. Instead, this is a fettle here, a tune there, a new bit of code for this and some updated software for that. The problem is such talk immediately undersells the work that has been done. It's only when we get to drill down into the details, with the individual engineers involved, that the full scope of the transformation is revealed.
When the 1.6 turbo motor first arrived in a crate from Nissan, bound for the engine bay of the Clio 4 RS, the Renaultsport engineers had just enough time to make it fit. The opportunity to extract more power has only come recently. On the inlet side, restrictive pipes have been replaced with enlarged diameter items for better airflow. A new, larger, turbo, has been fitted that works at higher pressures (1.03bar up from 0.96bar), along with a revised exhaust system, bigger flexi pipe and a new Euro6 compliant catalyst. The result is an extra 20hp, just over half of which derives from the larger turbocharger. And, as an added bonus, CO2 emissions are reduced, allowing the Trophy to drop down a VED band.
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Gearbox tweaks have halved shift time
Praise be; alongside these engine revisions, the Getrag EDC gearbox has undergone substantial recalibration work. Frequently the most infuriating and disappointing aspect of the standard Clio 200, engineers have tuned the software on the Trophy to deliver, what they promise to be, a far more connected experience. The system now reacts much faster to inputs from the driver, with response times halved in the most extreme RS mode (Race). And, although the fixed position paddles are identical, their throw has been reduced by 30 per cent.
If you've driven a Clio 200 EDC before, consider this: in normal mode, the Trophy delivers new ratios as fast as the current car can engage them in Race mode. According to the engineers, it's enough to transform the performance, and produce shifts that are now so fast your brain doesn't register the delay. Even in full auto mode, the 'box promises improved driveability, and no longer will it stubbornly refuse to shift up between second and third under constant throttle openings. All of which - if we ignore the fact that the EDC gearbox carries a 30-40kg weight penalty - is music to our ears.
The Trophy now revs higher too, which should help reduce the frequency with which owners bang their heads into the limiter when on track. It's now 6,800 (from 6,500) in the first three gears, a change that also permits greater flexibility on downshifts. Within the relative safety of fourth and fifth gears, you also get the benefit of something Renaultsport is calling Torque boost, whereby the electronics bequeath you the full 206lb ft on offer, 14lb ft more than in the lower gears.
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Paddles have a shorter travel too
So, more power, more torque, but no Perfohub offset steering axis front suspension; won't torque steer be a problem? Not according to ride and handling engineer Terry Baillon. Nor does he see the need for a mechanical limited slip differential, even if his professional curiosity is peaked whenever the subject of the so-equipped 208 GTI 30th is brought up. One arrives for evaluation in two weeks, we learn.
Baillon then pulls a blinder, picking up a file of road test printouts from the table - one from each of the assembled publications. Schadenfreude, or whatever the French equivalent is, fills the room. But Baillon does not simply want to see us squirm; he acknowledges the value of these reviews, and - with the caveat that the Clio 200 is purely a product of its design brief - a general alignment with their sentiment.
To appeal to the purist European customer, and answer the critics, Baillon was charged with giving the chassis a sharper, more track-focused bias and, to this end, the revisions he has made are comprehensive. The ride height has been lowered 20mm at the front and 10mm at the rear, which is a huge amount when you consider the current Cup chassis drops only 3mm. Front spring rates have remained unchanged but the rears have been raised by 40 per cent. Stiffer, longer, bump stops have been introduced all round, still operating in conjunction with the excellent hydraulic system that's incorporated within the retuned dampers. He has also added a faster steering rack, reducing the ratio by 10 per cent.
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The Fiesta and 208 are ready...
In unison with the new Michelin Pilot Super Sport tyres, body roll and understeer are down five per cent over the current Cup chassis, grip and cornering speeds are up, steering response is up eight per cent and the car is more inclined to oversteer. "The difference is huge", Baillon says. "It's more like a Megane RS", he reveals "and if we can talk about our competitors, it's close to the Fiesta ST. That, for us, was some kind of target".
The inevitable question follows; what does that mean in terms of lap time? An impressive three seconds faster over a 1:47 lap comes the emphatic reply.
Due to go on sale in the UK from June - for an as yet undisclosed premium - on paper at least, the Clio Renaultsport Trophy 220 EDC answers all the criticisms levelled at the standard car. Arguably, the Trophy - perhaps without the power upgrade - represents the car the 200 Cup should have been from the start, but either way, it's a considerable step in the right direction. Let's hope it delivers on those promises when we drive the car some time in May.
 

Chris V6 255

ClioSport Club Member
  V6 255, 182 Trophy
I like the sound of this

If you've driven a Clio 200 EDC before, consider this: in normal mode, the Trophy delivers new ratios as fast as the current car can engage them in Race mode.
 

Sir_Dave

ClioSport Trader
Should have been Red or another 'special' colour.

I dont think the car is special enough to wear Trophy pink tbh. This is simply the car that the 200EDC should be anyway.
Id expect the changes to filter down the range, then in 2 years time we'll see a Trophy-R which will be the proper version.
Happens with EVERY single new RenaultSport launch tbh, the first one is a pup, then it gradually gets better, until the runout model.
 
  Volvo XC60 T8
Looks good to me, but why bloody white?!?

It's had it's day. Should have been Red or another 'special' colour. Every man and his dog has a white car.
Because it's the only new colour available. I'd like one in flame red.
 


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