Clio Williams track car

[midge]

Im making this thread just to keep a progress log for myself really! This is my current valver track car -

Engine is high comp 1.8 but with standard rods and mild cams and emerald ecu (the engine is a proper half assed job!) 160-170bhp
Bucket seats/omp wheel
172 wide track and steering rack with wilwoods

Over the winter i planned on having a cage put in it and repairing the rusty bulkhead, however this Williams become available, it used to be a road rally car and has been off the road since 2001 and dry stored, the shell has absolutely no rust on it, although it does have various damage around it, It has the engine and box and apparently it runs but the fuel pump is missing (along with a lot of other things!)

There was a brief bit of panic when the reg wasn't coming up on any checks but i phoned the DVLA and they confirmed the car does exist and hasn't been on the road since 2001 and that's why it wasn't coming up

I did briefly toy with the idea of returning it to standard and selling it on but it would cost loads and it has zero history with it along with bits welded in for the cage

Has the wrong bumper on it but i have a couple

Genuine speeling Group A wheels

This is how i got it

First job is to clean these mounting points and paint them and then get a windscreen fitted!

Its going to take me a while to get anywhere on this really as i need to break apart my valver so i can start swapping over parts, but certainly before i do that ill be getting a windscreen in the williams, i did however take out the ecu from Williams today and found it is chipped so will be interesting to take the cam cover off and see if it has some cams in there (pleeeeease!) or if its just an off the shelf chip

List of jobs is huge!

 

[m&l172ph1]

Great project, love the mk1's

Wish I could get round to doing something with my phase 1. Not touched it in a 18 months!

I know where to come if I want a mk1!

 

[Daz...]

This looks like a lot of work. But with a decent donor already hopefully it will make some fast progress!

 

[Knuckles]

Brilliant. I love that valver!

I'm sure the Williams will be ace when you've finished with it but the thought of the work to do! Better you than me

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Looks a fun project, do love a MK1.

I've not forgotten about the pictures you sent by the way, just got distracted by being on holiday lol.

 

[20vKarlos]

awesome stuff, I shall pay attention to this!

 

[MicKPM]

List of jobs is huge!

You have both my admiration AND sympathy taking this on. It took me nearly 18months to restore my Mk1 and it was by far the most expensive car i've ever done. Not to mention the lack of parts available... I swear I paid for most of Mat Browns wedding LoL

 

[Coops Mk1]

nice one midge, looking forward to seeing how this progresses

 

[midge]

cleaned these then painted with kurust, will go over with black hammerite tomorrow (theres loads of these around the car but ive only done the ones by the windscreen for now so i can get a screen in it)

No boot seal

Fitted

Also fitted the door seals, thought i had a pic but i dont

 

[midge]

Done nothing on the weekend on the williams (although i did sell the interior out of my 172 exclusive so now thats become my 3rd shed!)

Today i had displeasure of removing this manifold, anyone who has ever removed a 1.8 16v manifold will now how crap this is, the bottom 3 bolts you can get 1 click on the ratchet each turn, the person who fitted this to the williams is an absolute donut.

Assistant

Had to remove the drive shaft to get the down pipe out (looks like a genuine renault sport dog bone on there to)

Success

Windscreen is booked to be done on thursday, ill be a lot happier once thats in, Tomorrow i plan on fitting my supersprint manifold and magnex exhaust, along with hammeriting the cage mounting points that sit behind the windscreen.

Essentially once the manifold and exhaust is on i should be able to dump a fuel pump in there, connect the fuel hoses and start it, although the tank has been open with no fuel pump in it for ages and is quite likely full of crap.

 

[cs_dave]

Looks a good project wish i could live with the rust battle of a mk1

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Keep at it, all progress is good progress. Want to sell me the valver with gold wheels yet? lol

Nice pussy btw.

 

[midge]

No rust on the williams (it is battered though) my valver in the back ground only has rust on the bulkhead and the 3rd one i have has no rust and is in great condition, its for sale but is engineless, i think that car may end being another long term project!

My plan for the wiliams is to get it running, get my other cars interior in it (seats dash etc) then give it to my friend in Littlehampton on my week off to help (Do) the brakes and 172 track bits, mot it then use it! ive been speaking to a guy about painting but thats a long way off

 

[midge]

Today the first thing i done was remove this stupid starter motor bracket, its not needed and is in the way and heavy, makes it a massive pain to change the starter motor if it ever needs to be done, also removed the heatshield as only one mounting point left on it and that is the one on the bracket! (ill use a 172 starter heat shield)

And off

Manifold fitted, its a spare supersprint i had from another car

I also fitted the down pipe but it is slightly different to the one that is fitted to my valver which ment i couldnt do a good job of mounting my exhaust, although i did get the exhaust fitted

I have the car turning over now, and i cleaned out most of the crap that was in it

Tomorrow im hoping to get it started, the issue is the car has been sitting with no fuel pump in it for years and the tank is full of muck, im going to get the hoover out tomorrow and see what i can get out of it and then wipe everything i can see with petrol soaked cloths, im hoping i can then just drop a pump in it and run the car.

Jobs for tomorrow -
hammerite brackets that will be covered by the windscreen
clean tank
fit fuel pump
start car

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Good progress. Where are you getting all the bits from for this? What's happening to the valver with the gold rims?

 

[RichValver]

Need to get cracking with my williams also, looks like you have a lot of work to do on it!

 

[midge]

Good progress. Where are you getting all the bits from for this? What's happening to the valver with the gold rims?

Im breaking it, using all the best bits on the williams, i still have the itb'd one which is also being broken but will keep it as a rolling shell as its solid and in very good condition, the parts are coming from my shed/other cars etc!

 

[massiveCoRbyn]

Im breaking it, using all the best bits on the williams, i still have the itb'd one which is also being broken but will keep it as a rolling shell as its solid and in very good condition, the parts are coming from my shed/other cars etc!

Shame that, I really like the look of it. Sure you don't want to sell it? Could even de-spec it a bit lol

You have three MK1s and I can't even find one lol

 

[midge]

So yesterday all i managed to do was hammerite the cage brackets as i had to do other things as parts of the other cars were sold and needed to come off (the white speedlines, some plastics etc)

Im not going to start the car with the current fuel tank in it as it is literally full of crap, dust/dirt etc, it would no doubt ruin the injectors and fuel lines, so im going to wait until i have broken L21 FUD and use the tank out of that

Today the windscreen was swapped over, which means i will be able to start sorting the dash out but again i want to break the other car first as i want the space

With the screen swapped it ment i could get a better look at the fibreglass that is/was under the dash top L21 FUD

With a little tap the whole top fibreglass piece came off revealing some wire mesh

I took the wool out and then tapped the bottom and the whole bottom fibreglass piece fell off

Outstanding job by a previous owner

This weekend i hope to rip in to that car and get it completely stripped

 

[RichValver]

that's horrific

 

[K_McDermott]

looks good progress so far, love mk1s

that repair looks a bit questionable though

 

[M4ck1]

So yesterday all i managed to do was hammerite the cage brackets as i had to do other things as parts of the other cars were sold and needed to come off (the white speedlines, some plastics etc)

Im not going to start the car with the current fuel tank in it as it is literally full of crap, dust/dirt etc, it would no doubt ruin the injectors and fuel lines, so im going to wait until i have broken L21 FUD and use the tank out of that

Today the windscreen was swapped over, which means i will be able to start sorting the dash out but again i want to break the other car first as i want the space

With the screen swapped it ment i could get a better look at the fibreglass that is/was under the dash top L21 FUD

With a little tap the whole top fibreglass piece came off revealing some wire mesh

I took the wool out and then tapped the bottom and the whole bottom fibreglass piece fell off

Outstanding job by a previous owner

This weekend i hope to rip in to that car and get it completely stripped

that's horrific

Blimey!!!
Looks like you're going to need all the spare cars you've got, to repair the botch ups.

 

[midge]

The rusty car is being broken and wont go back on the road, The williams is solid

 

[M4ck1]

The rusty car is being broken and wont go back on the road, The williams is solid

If your breaking I could do with some parts for Williams 2.

 

[midge]

Send me a message with what you need

 

[M4ck1]

Send me a message with what you need

Cheers pm sent:up:

 

[midge]

Slow progress over the last week or so (rain every single day) i had been nibbling at L21 FUD taking a few bits off here and there over the last week and today i moved it outside the yard and gutted it, it will be going for scrap tomorrow or tuesday

Struggled with a couple of the fuel tank bolts so tipped it up

And a very good friend of mine from France managed to find me some Williams wheels and center caps

My main problem is having time to get anything done, the whole week is taken up with work and picking my son up from school (and Rain) The Williams is going to Gary's on the 13th to have the suspension and track etc done and i was hoping to have the dash and interior all done by then but i dont think i will which is very annoying as Gary said he would get it mot'd but it wont be finished.

 

[hardy]

Only just spotted this thread as I've been off here for a while.
Any more progress?
Seriously need to get a thread going for mine...
Josh

 

[midge]

Update time, Before the car went to Gary i put a dash in it, the car went to Gary and had the following work done, i would have loved to have done this stuff myself but the cosntant rain and mud was a big problem, so Gary done -
Rear shocks
fitted the fuel tank from my other car
the car then ran
fitted front suspesion, pms top mounts, 172 cup wishbones, ph1 172 front drive shafts, 172 hubs, wilwoods, braided front and rear brake lines (and every other brake line as they all burst when bleeding)
Cambelt/aux belt/rotor/leads/oil/gear oil

The car was then ready for its mot BUT the crank seal started to leak so it was engine out, i had a new clutch from another car so that went on along with a new crank seal.
Pms shifter was fitted but Gary couldnt get any gears when it was running, i had to drop some parts off and get a few bits for my 172 cup, it was the clutch pedal playing up so i adjusted it and got all gears, we then fitted the bonnet cable and i left while Gary booked it in for mot, the radiator then failed! so i ordered a new one to be delivered to him and the mot Passed a few days later and i went and got it and drove it home!

Here it is after getting it home, it ran great and pulls better than i expected, however there is some interesting whining coming from the box, no crunches though, i do have a spare williams box and a 182 box so ill probably run this one until it breaks.

I had to changed the steering column today as the weld on the one in the car had failed, when i changed it it become apparent the ignition barrell was broken and would not be able to swap it over which was ok as the drivers door lock wouldnt lock as the rod had broken, the car had 2 keys, 1 for the ignition and drivers door 1 for the passenger door and then none for the boot locks (always the case with mk1's)
Luckily i have a complete mk1 matching lock set, With the boot lock! and 2 keys, so i swapped it all over (this will be one of very few mk1's where 1 key opens all the locks!)

Removed rear wiper and spray and plugged

I wire brushed/cleaned/painted all of the cage mountings as they had surface rust from the welding (done it on all of them)

Fitted the missing steering cowling, i used one without a hole for stereo controls (came from the same car as the lock set and the dash board which had only done 34k so everything is in really good condition)

And my favorite part of the day was fitting the steering wheel

To finish off i went to a local fixings place and picked up all the bolts i need for the cage (all the rear ones were missing, like someone had started to take it out then gave up) I also picked up a some wd40 and am soaking the torsion bars as i plan to take the suspension down tomorrow and set the camber at the front

I have also ordered the rear 3 windows in plastic, i have manual windy windows to go in the front, got a lot of parts still to fit!

 

[midge]

Battle was won, it took a long time though.

This is how we started

'Tool'

One side was seized and took a long time to sort out, however i won the battle

And set, with 16mm spacers on the rear, front taken down a touch and camber set

Plastic windows came today, i am picking up 2 888's to go on my superleggeras tomorrow and plan on fitting my front windy windows also

 

[Jekyll]

Awesome Daniel.

Certainly tested your patience prior to the MOT but got there in the end.

 

[Coops Mk1]

nice man, once all these seized and annoying jobs are done she'll then be a pleasure to work on again, love mine now I've had it completely in bits and copper slipped and greased everything. Lovely to just take to it knowing the job can be done

 

[Coops Mk1]

oh and all that any you still haven't flipped the 2.0 badges side to side ;-) @midge

 

[t90_lle]

@midge you need to sell me all your wheels! Any of them would look great on my Monaco!

 

[midge]

The 2118 are for sale £450 RSR tyres, wheels dont have any kurbing on them and are the proper engraved ones!

 

[t90_lle]

The 2118 are for sale £450 RSR tyres, wheels dont have any kurbing on them and are the proper engraved ones!

:smile: Nice... Where are you located bud??

 

[midge]

:smile: Nice... Where are you located bud??

Gatwick

 

[t90_lle]

Gatwick

Ok let me get my car back from ED an if you still got them maybe we could have a deal?

 

[midge]

Send me a messgae when you're ready and we'll see if i still have them

 

[midge]

This stuff was one on Tuesday but been to busy to update, rear lights changed for better ones i had

Drivers side door finished with electric window removed and manual window installed

Complete un broken rad Shroud i had in the shed was dug out and fitted

Had some harness bars welded in to as i wasnt to happy with the lower one

To do -
Fit superleggera wheels
fit passanger door along with manual window and door cards
change boot and strip to the cleaner one i have
change all 3 rear windows to plastic
move battery to boot
Buy some hoses
Fit V6 airbox with new hoses
Buy and fit 4 point harnessess
Do track days.