Clip Cup on Fifth Gear

[tbellamy]

Hi,

Did anyone manage to watch it ?

Forgot totally.........

Only place where I can find info is on the fifth gear website but theres no info apart from the mini not being able to touch the lap time of the cup !!

Anyone got any resources ?

 

[MRBILLYUK]

http://www.finalgear.com/news/2008/03/24/fifth-gear-impreza-wrx-sti-geneva-hummer-h3/

 

[Poopensharten]

It wont be on the 'Tube until later in the week!

Was excellent, cups a far better car!

I reckon its probaly got a higher centre of gravity but its far more race orientated than the S, better all rounder!

 

[godders182]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUF8jWqmAB8

 

[catherinej]

What happened to the other thread?

 

[CraigV6]

Yeah I was sure there was a lengthy thread about this last night, but when it wasn't here this morning I doubted my sanity......................

 

[Scaggeh]

Haha, my mini owning mate rang me to demand I watch it. Was expecting the JCW to come out on top after the reviews I've read but needless to say I was grinning at the end. Texted him back to see if he's planning an upgrade to a cup

 

[Cue]

never in doubt on track. 1 second is a larger gaqp than i expected though, considering the clio is heavier than the mini that was a eye opener.

I'm yet to drive the 197 cup but my experience of the R27 and FF197 is that they are slightly slower than the 182 cup and trophy. Whether the 197 cup varient has levelled the playing field or not i'll find out soon enough no doubt.

Still that means that the latest that beveria can through at the hot hatch market is still out gunned by 6 year old machinery.

 

[Christopher]

it looked great on the show

 

[Ian_182]

Thats the exact colour and wheels i would want.

Good honest review aswell

 

[Moby]

Looked cracking - still not sure about the Cup rear spoiler tho.

 

[sh33n]

Still that means that the latest that beveria can through at the hot hatch market is still out gunned by 6 year old machinery.

Or even older, like the Escort Cosworth vs Focus RS

 

[caeteez]

Looked really lovely in there. Gorgeous in white with the black wheels. Still, for everyday road usage I think I'd probably take the Works, just because its not so stripped out and hardcore .

 

[graham_172]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np1nesyWaVY

 

[Ali]

Still that means that the latest that beveria can through at the hot hatch market is still out gunned by 6 year old machinery.

Or even older, like the Escort Cosworth vs Focus RS

i'm not sure an ecort would beat a focus on track!

 

[Cue]

Vicky had it over a second ahead - same day, same place, same driver.

Regardless of ability that a fair comparison imo.

 

[Scutch]

Ahh the Clip Cup. Great name for a car.

Looked sweet on the track.

 

[sh33n]

Or even older, like the Escort Cosworth vs Focus RS

i'm not sure an ecort would beat a focus on track!

Did on Fifth Gear, by a decent enough margin.

 

[Englebert]

Did look great on tv, still not sure the spoiler would work in the flesh though, every one i have seen makes me giggle.

 

[Gaz_]

never in doubt on track. 1 second is a larger gaqp than i expected though, considering the clio is heavier than the mini that was a eye opener.

I'm yet to drive the 197 cup but my experience of the R27 and FF197 is that they are slightly slower than the 182 cup and trophy. Whether the 197 cup varient has levelled the playing field or not i'll find out soon enough no doubt.

Still that means that the latest that beveria can through at the hot hatch market is still out gunned by 6 year old machinery.

Nah they have plenty of grunt as shown, and are not 'slow' like peeps on here would believe. I've had a 172 Cup, a FF cup-packed 182 and now a 197.There is no marked speed difference between the 182 and 197........

 

[Bezza4]

Is the spoiler on the Cup standard? Car looked very nice!

Was surprised to hear to stripped down Cup was still heavier than the Mini. The Mini has got a bit of a reputation for being a bit heavy. Just shows you what a porker the 197 really is!

 

[catherinej]

I read the other day about the weight of the 207 GTI, that is even heavier than the clio at in excess of 1,300 kg.

 

[parc77]

The Mini looked a bit crap (to look at) in comparisson to the clio...the Cup looked great...be nice to see the proper Works (211bhp as opposed to the bolt on bits from the dealer 192bhp version).

Goes off to search the net for 197's for sale

 

[caister]

Good comparrison though I do think the spoiler on the cup looks like its come from Halfords. Would be interesting to see if the Mini tested had the optional diff as my girlfriends standard Cooper S (Without Diff) has serious amounts of Torque steer and when pushed just spins the inside wheel the low down torque is impressive compaired to my PH1 though!!

 

[Hutchie]

they only baisically decided plato was a better driver than tiff, its not really a fair comparison as much as i love the clio beeting the mini, mate with mini cooper s gutted lol

 

[Ian_182]

They both said in a straight line the cooper was the quicker car,but on a track with the right driver the clio was the best.

 

[Tim(e)]

The Clio Cup is not 'striped out' and lightweight....

It doesn't have aircon (but its an option) which makes it 20kg lighter than a FF....it has a cheapo steering wheel and dash, 2 CUP badges and a spoiler (which probably add back 20kg), cheapo door cards, no xenons and the cup chassis...etc

It is not the same comparison as the original 172 Cup and 172 FF

Wow....

 

[CraigV6]

But the 197 Cup is a better drive than a regular full fat 197 and cheaper than a 197 full fat with Cup pack.

I think Renault have given us great amounts of choice on a great car.

I have had numerous cars with lots of different toys and "luxuries". This time I wanted to get a cheap new car that had the right drive. That's what I got. £13k as well!

Why some people have a problem with a choice of going for the cheaper model and saving a couple of thousand £'s I have no idea?
Sure it isn't lightweight, nor stripped out, but it is cheaper and that money is better in my pocket rather than wasted on all those "luxuries".

It's good to have choice.