Clutch options 182

[Advikaz]

any suggestions regarding clutches for a 182 that’s used on the road and track.

Car will be getting a black line diff fitted.

Any first hand recommendations welcomed. Leaning towards the Sachs Performance Kit 🤦🏽‍♂️😭

Interested also in LUK experiences of getting tracked with moderate vigour amongst others

Also: any recommends on good driveshafts. Wondering if it’s worth replacing whilst I’m in there….

 

[Advikaz]

😬

 

[Louis]

Genuine OEM

 

[Advikaz]

Genuine OEM

Been reading a fair few horror stories about the Valeo clutches and track use…?

 

[Mr Underhill]

My mate blew a hole in his gearbox with a Valeo clutch. Last lap of Silverstone as well. Might have been a Chinese special though.

I think my current machine has a Valeo but I’m putting a Sachs Racing clutch with organic plate in when this one lets go.

I‘ve always used Shaftec.

 

[Advikaz]

My mate blew a hole in his gearbox with a Valeo clutch. Last lap of Silverstone as well.

I think my current machine has a Valeo but I’m putting a Sachs Racing clutch with organic plate in when this one lets go.

I’m leaning that way tbh chief

 

[Mr Underhill]

I’m leaning that way tbh chief

Nice and light for road use, but can take a beating on track. I had one in my last track machine.

 

[Advikaz]

Nice and light for road use, but can take a beating on track. I had one in my last track machine.

Nice to get some feedback. I’m hearing good things on them.

 

[Louis]

Been reading a fair few horror stories about the Valeo clutches and track use…?

Genuine oem have thicker components iirc?

 

[Neil Clio 182]

I killed my OEM one at Cadwell, replaced with a Sachs performance one.

 

[Advikaz]

I killed my OEM one at Cadwell, replaced with a Sachs performance one.

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Ooo nice Bluetooth clutch disc mate

 

[ldubl]

If your driveshafts are okay, I'd stick with them!

When getting the clutch done on my last 182, I had a similar thought to do them at the same time as a preventative measure. Went with JR and the outer CV boot lasted about a week. Messy and expensive in labour etc; put the oem one back on!

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Sachs Motorsport clutch and organic cover plate on mine. (From PMS)

Gripper fitted and track only, it’s lovely. (But it f**king STANK the first time I used it 😂)

 

[Advikaz]

If your driveshafts are okay, I'd stick with them!

When getting the clutch done on my last 182, I had a similar thought to do them at the same time as a preventative measure. Went with JR and the outer CV boot lasted about a week. Messy and expensive in labour etc; put the oem one back on!

Roger that

Sachs Motorsport clutch and organic cover plate on mine. (From PMS)

Gripper fitted and track only, it’s lovely. (But it f**king STANK the first time I used it 😂)

That’s the direction I’m going less the gripper. As I use it on the road and would rather ‘fit and forget’

 

[Mr Underhill]

You‘ll probably change it anyway - Clutch Guide Tube - P/N (8200128328) - OEM Mfr. Corteco P/N (49376781)

25NM

 

[Advikaz]

You‘ll probably change it anyway - Clutch Guide Tube - P/N (8200128328) - OEM Mfr. Corteco P/N (49376781)

25NM

Will add it to the shopping list 😂

 

[SharpyClio]

I remember reading this thread earlier in the year so I thought as I am looking at clutches I would resurrect it.

Given I can get 3 OEM clutches for the price of one Sachs motorsport one is it really worth it? Running stock power will it last 3 times as long?

If we really think its a sound investment then I will probably do it but it seems a lot more.

 

[Mr Underhill]

I remember reading this thread earlier in the year so I thought as I am looking at clutches I would resurrect it.

Given I can get 3 OEM clutches for the price of one Sachs motorsport one is it really worth it? Running stock power will it last 3 times as long?

If we really think its a sound investment then I will probably do it but it seems a lot more.

OEM clutches are not designed for the ass-whipping they get on a track though. They can take it for so long. My SACHs took 5 years of beating. Horses for courses.

 

[SharpyClio]

OEM clutches are not designed for the ass-whipping they get on a track though. They can take it for so long. My SACHs took 5 years of beating. Horses for courses.

It’s the Yorkshire man in me.

think I’ll probably end up with the sachs, the more I’ve thought about it the more it’d be a bit daft to scrap on it

 

[Advikaz]

I've heard and seen too many stories of oem and pattern oem parts shitting themselves and taking the boxes with them.

@NorthloopCup is probs the man to talk to

 

[Mr Underhill]

I've heard and seen too many stories of oem and pattern oem parts shitting themselves and taking the boxes with them.

@NorthloopCup is probs the man to talk to

Happened to my mate Cameron at Silverstone. Last few laps and leading the race. The clutch gave way and blew a hole in his gearbox.

 

[SharpyClio]

Happened to my mate Cameron at Silverstone. Last few laps and leading the race. The clutch gave way and blew a hole in his gearbox.

Im not going to lie, this doesn't sound great.

 

[Mr Underhill]

Im not going to lie, this doesn't sound great.

Well, they're racing and are brutal. I think my current car has a standard clutch that's running 226 hi-comp engine, so it's not a given that it'll go.

I haven't pushed mine yet to be fair.

 

[NorthloopCup]

I remember reading this thread earlier in the year so I thought as I am looking at clutches I would resurrect it.

Given I can get 3 OEM clutches for the price of one Sachs motorsport one is it really worth it? Running stock power will it last 3 times as long?

If we really think its a sound investment then I will probably do it but it seems a lot more.

A gearbox is more expensive than a Sachs clutch as well if that helps? So £100 valeo vs £££’s for the gearbox you need to replace because the £100 valeo s**t it’s pants.

 

[Advikaz]

I've got a sexy sachs one sat next to me atm. Does look tasty

 

[SharpyClio]

I've got a sexy sachs one sat next to me atm. Does look tasty

Give you £50 for it.

 

[SharpyClio]

A gearbox is more expensive than a Sachs clutch as well if that helps? So £100 valeo vs £££’s for the gearbox you need to replace because the £100 valeo s**t it’s pants.

Its hard to argue with that.... won't necessarily stop me trying though!

Appreciate the input.

 

[NorthloopCup]

Its hard to argue with that.... won't necessarily stop me trying though!

Appreciate the input.

You’re only going to be arguing it with yourself mate lol

No worries 👍🏻

 

[Neil Clio 182]

I have problems with my Organic Sachs Clutch, it seems to hang when the RPMS are over 6k. I have to hold the pedal to the floor to get it to change. I have seen other mentions of this problem now. The only solution I have seen is to bin it.
Any one have any advice/input on this?

 

[Martin_172]

OEM clutch and learn to heel and toe, no wonder people are killing them on track watching some of the videos on YouJizz

 

[Neil Clio 182]

OEM clutch and learn to heel and toe, no wonder people are killing them on track watching some of the videos on YouJizz

Guilty, I am trying to learn, hard to heel and toe when it sticks in gear though. I went with the Sachs based on advice and use though. I was thinking of going back to OEM due to costs, don't fancy dumping another £600 on a clutch that doesn't do it's job.

 

[colesy]

OEM clutch and learn to heel and toe, no wonder people are killing them on track watching some of the videos on YouJizz

Can’t agree more! On my first ever track day I didn’t worry about lines or how fast I was I taught myself how to heel and toe.

 

[Matt Cup]

Are Clio’s easy to heel and toe though? I always struggled due to the brake and accelerator pedals not being the same height.

 

[Neil Clio 182]

Are Clio’s easy to heel and toe though? I always struggled due to the brake and accelerator pedals not being the same height.

You can raise the acc with some washers easily enough. I also have slightly wider pedals than OEM. I find my TT RS easier though.

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

Are Clio’s easy to heel and toe though? I always struggled due to the brake and accelerator pedals not being the same height.

They are by the time you're standing on the brake pedal.

Clio is really easy to do, especially with a slightly wider throttle pedal.

 

[Matt Cup]

They are by the time you're standing on the brake pedal.

Clio is really easy to do, especially with a slightly wider throttle pedal.

By that time I have locked up and I ended up here 😶

Suppose I just need to practice more.

 

[Mr Trailer Man]

By that time I have locked up and I ended up here 😶

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Suppose I just need to practice more.

Cup life, no abs 😂

 

[Matt Cup]

Cup life, no abs 😂

Knows it 🤣

 

[the_baron_von_richthofen]

I find it easy enough to heel and toe.

Once you are on the brakes the throttle is in a nice position for a quick blip.

As long as your tyres are decent and warm I wouldnt expect you to be locking up on track.

 

[Advikaz]

@NorthloopCup