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COILOVERS FITTED AT LAST !!!!





Well its taken a while for me to get round to it but they are finally on and the car handles sweeter than ever, the ride quality is great, not harsh or crashy over bumps and poor surfaces at all, i havnt dropped it as low as it will go as there are too many speed bumps around town. The handling and the ride have improved loads.Have to say a huge thanks to BenR for fitting them with me (well more like the other way round but hey) took ages and the wheels were on and off and it was up and down on the ramp several times getting the ride height all level, but the end result is well worth sweating my t*ts off for the most part of the day, thanks Ben you are a star mate
 


lol, i have no digital camera at the mo as my dad took it on hols but ben took a couple before the guys at work started taking the p*ss, but to be fair i was stealing all his tools as my 60pce set is a bit lacking to say the least. i would wholeheartedly reccomend h&rs to anyone looking to put coilovers on their mk2 172 i couldnt stop grinning on the first drive after they were fitted :D
 


LOL>.....its really is a lovely kit, although lack of info on strut tip arrangements led to minor confusion, not to mention Si decided ot hide some parts from me..........but taking struts off and on repeatedly makes a fun day dont it! :p

very very nice ride, handles great, firm, supply......totally worth ti and non of this junk that most people supply.

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Nice day though, saw the JCW cooper S upgrade, what a pile of sh*t teh cooper engine is.........total junk.....
 


lol, told you minis are total poo. sorry about the minor confusion with the strut top bearing my bad too much of a hurry with the spring compressor and totally missed it :oops:

dam them fron struts look sexy even if i do say so myself :D:cool:

had to head to the pub afterwards for a well earned rest, cold drink and big plate pub food :D
 
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Looks top quality. Are the fronts a main spring plus slipper spring to make them progressive? From the photos I would say you are on about a 40mm drop? Do the front wheels rub on the wheel liners on full lock? Mine does using avo springs with a similar drop.
 


no detectable rub at all although it early days and ive not really tested it out propely yet, did have aplay of cousre and all i can say is very very very impressed, wish we had taken a pic of it dropped on its arse as it was very very low, particularly at the front
 


no rubbing, drop of about 25-30mm depending where you measure it, i used the corner of the sill rails.

The tender springs just take up some droop travel and prevent it from dislocating, in specific tuned items they can be used or a 2 stage progressive effect, but tis no real point as they are coilbound most of the time.
 


think we confused ourselves with putting up up and down so many times, not 100% sure how much we dropped it but its more like 40mm than 30 as the rears were almost at lowest setting and they drop by upto 55mm
 
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Where did you actually buy the H&R kit and how much? Ive looked at your photos a couple or thrice times now and keep thinking ....... must have ...... no too expensive ...... sh*t only live once ........ MUST HAVE!!! To be honest after having the Chassis Dynamic -40mm springs for a while Im going off them a bit. I reckon the fronts are coil binding which is a bit concerning to the point that Im loosing confidence at speed and liable to do some damage to the chassis. I reckon 40mm drop is just a bit too much for the 172. Would be best around the 30mm mark as Ben and yourself has set it up. Also these kits are sold as matched damper v spring rates.
 


Im not ususally into these spring and uprated damper kits because mostly they are pants.

This is not adj for damping or rebound (which is a good thing in IMO, no messiing about with knobs that do nothing) only height.

The ride is jsut about perfect, not harsh over any of swindons worst rds (which loony decided to take a 15 min diversion to check whilst i was starving :p). They are firm, well built, just generally great kit and the car handles (from the passenger seat) rather damn well.

BTW, when and if you get them, call us about the top mount arrangement, its a tad confusing.....save you time messing about, measuring, chekcing the bushes etc etc..........
 
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Cheers Ben ..... will do! Ive had adjustable kits on previous cars and to be honest found them to be a gimmick unless youre doing a lot of track work ... which Im not. Only thing they are good for is compensating for shagged dampers. Ride height/attitude is more important when trying to dial out over/under steer. So, wheres the cheapest place to get a kit?
 


They look really nice!!! who make them for the 172?

Sorry folks Im new to such things as Coilovers, Can you answer a few question for me?

Are the heights adjustable?

What are the advantages to normal springs/shocks?

Prices?
 


sorry been out drinking all night, lol. i had quotes upto a grand for them but paid £630 inc VAT but that was trade as i work for a BMW dealer, i think R-TEC and motorsports wheels sell them, they are made by H&R (who make porsche, GT, and touring car suspension) They are very impressive flying scotsman i would definately recommend them and as ben says the fitting is very confusing as H&R dont supply instructions as TUV approval means they have to be fitted by an authourised dealer in europe hence no instructions, basically so far its big grins all round and has not degraded the ride quality at all :D
 


Quote: Originally posted by RT-ED on 01 June 2003


They look really nice!!! who make them for the 172?

Sorry folks Im new to such things as Coilovers, Can you answer a few question for me?

Are the heights adjustable?

What are the advantages to normal springs/shocks?

Prices?
there are a few companies that make them for the 172 but i went for H&R as they test them before putting them on the market unlike some companies

the height is adjustable upto -55mm on the rear and upto -75mm on the front we think we have set mine at about -40mm front and rear

advantage is the ride height is adustable plus the shocks are matched to the springs and designed to run at the lower ride height unlike fitting just srings where you tend to damage the dampers or just not get decent performance from them as they are running at one extreme of their travel rather than in the middle of it

prices for coilover kits tend to range from £450 to silly amounts dependin on the car and companys kit you choose but on a clio it tends to be no more than a grand or just over
 


Quote: Originally posted by Flying Scotsman on 01 June 2003

Where did you actually buy the H&R kit and how much? Ive looked at your photos a couple or thrice times now and keep thinking ....... must have ...... no too expensive ...... sh*t only live once ........ MUST HAVE!!! To be honest after having the Chassis Dynamic -40mm springs for a while Im going off them a bit. I reckon the fronts are coil binding which is a bit concerning to the point that Im loosing confidence at speed and liable to do some damage to the chassis. I reckon 40mm drop is just a bit too much for the 172. Would be best around the 30mm mark as Ben and yourself has set it up. Also these kits are sold as matched damper v spring rates.
Whats coil binding? :confused:
 


cheeky bugger! lol

its just that there are those who know what to do and those who only slam things cause the spring platforms go that low.

im guessing your the latter?

:p
 


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Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 01 June 2003


Nice day though, saw the JCW cooper S upgrade, what a pile of sh*t teh cooper engine is.........total junk.....
Really? Whats wrong with it.



whats right with it
 


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Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 01 June 2003


Nice day though, saw the JCW cooper S upgrade, what a pile of sh*t teh cooper engine is.........total junk.....
Really? Whats wrong with it.
Engine design is poor, no wonder they had to use a charger to get a paltry 160bhp....

Bad port design, tiny valves, bad castings.......name something, its bad....its also american....small american engiens are pants.
 


Quote: Originally posted by Flying Scotsman on 01 June 2003

Where did you actually buy the H&R kit and how much? Ive looked at your photos a couple or thrice times now and keep thinking ....... must have ...... no too expensive ...... sh*t only live once ........ MUST HAVE!!! To be honest after having the Chassis Dynamic -40mm springs for a while Im going off them a bit. I reckon the fronts are coil binding which is a bit concerning to the point that Im loosing confidence at speed and liable to do some damage to the chassis. I reckon 40mm drop is just a bit too much for the 172. Would be best around the 30mm mark as Ben and yourself has set it up. Also these kits are sold as matched damper v spring rates.
What was happening to make you say it was coil binding at speed? I have on occasion got a thumping sound at 130+ .....
 
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Micro cellular jounce bumper .... youve lost me now mate. Do you mean the rubber bit at the top of the struts?:)

ak_ak: Ive noticed that certain irregularities in the road (especially dips that stretch across the lane) the front dives and makes a crashing sound that you can feel right through the body. Im assuming that the coils at the front are binding probably due to the 40mm less travel than standard. Doesnt seem to happen during hard cornering which Ive experienced on a previous car. When that happens its scary, fecking up the handling completely.

Dont know, what do you reckon Ben?
 


yes, bump stops......its the true fancy word.

The crash is more likely a mount than the suspension coilbinding.
 


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