Competition cup parts for std Cup

[si_cup]

Does anybody know if its possible to get hold of parts used on the cup racers? These tuning mods obviously work. i know they have tight regs to comply to but they must change some bits, exhaust etc? After having a full manex system inc. 4 branch manifold on my old 205 gti, and the improvement that simply using the std manifold & downpipe, attached to a 75 quid group N exhaust from peugeot sport, ive been a bit dubious of anything thats not been proven on a race track.

Also evo magazine mentioned that renaultsport is bringing out add ons for the cup, seats rollcages etc. does anyone have any info on what they are actually gonna release, and when? Any Information much appreciated!

 

[BenR]

THey are std apart from the option of camber bolts of which they are alloed to use one (they have a few to choose from) non adj dampers but have a height adj platform, rear camber plates, orbisound exhaust (900 odd quid) open air filter and a diff ignition control by magnetti marelli.

and look under your bonnet at the std exhaust manifold.....notice the work of art it is!

 

[JJ172]

Alas, weve tried the Cup racer camber bolts and they dont fit the Mk2!

 

[BenR]

in what way?

 

[JJ172]

In that they dont fit way- DOH!

 

[RobFenn]

k-tec do some

 

[Fred@BTM]

The race cars have rear coilovers as well, with external damerps i think

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 17 June 2003

The race cars have rear coilovers as well, with external damerps i think

single coilover unit.

 

[BenR]

Quote: Originally posted by JJ172 on 17 June 2003

In that they dont fit way- DOH!

to long, short wrong diameter....what?

 

[si_cup]

right, wont be going the cup racer route then! your right the manifold is a work of art, i suppose i was just hopping they made a group N mid and backbox, what with the cat it still wouldnt of been that easy. Cheers anyway.

One last thing - L.A.D motorsport. They claim to be able to up the power of the std 172 to around 200bhp for about £1700. is this right? ive heard very bad things in the past about them. this seems too much of a power hike for 1700 quid. i wouldve thought it wouldve required some pretty serious work to achieve that. Anyone had it done and got it tested?

 

[Fred@BTM]

Quote: Originally posted by BenR on 17 June 2003

Quote: Originally posted by Fred2001Dynamic on 17 June 2003

The race cars have rear coilovers as well, with external damerps i think

single coilover unit.

Sorry Ben!!!!



LAD = NO

 

[172 Cup]

Does anyone consider the cup race car 6 speed sequential gearbox for your cup road car? I seruously do! Anyone know where I could get the secondhand box?

 

[tonykart]

haha 172 cup you know what a sequential box cost. At least when we wreck a clio our driver will have to pay € 12000 for a new one by Renault !!!

And dont put coilovers on your clio unless you want to loose your teath its SO incredible hard you dont wanna know (yes I tried even with modded dampers)



cheers

 

[tonykart]

and another thing I dont know what the emissions are in the UK but when I put the Orbisound race-exhaust from header till the end on my car the car made a racesound you DONT wanna know. I had to put in an extra damper otherwise my wife could here me coming from 10 miles. (but fast though)

 

[Roamer]

172 cup - yes, Ive considered the Sadev sequential in the past, very seriously, including talking to the uk importer/sales company, you can get either a straight cut or semi-helical (quieter) and it will cost you about £7000 plus fitting, but depending on use (road or only hard track use) the gearbox wont need to be rebuilt as often as one used purely for racing.

 

[BenR]

if you want a nice exhaust, have a look at supersprint.com and their race systems for the 172.......plain, simple and gorgeous.

 

[172 Cup]

Roamer - 7000 quid, itll be worthwile to consider. Do the standard driveshafts fit? Please tell me more about it!

 

[BenR]

worthwhile.....um, no.

On the rd its horrid at low speed as with any sequential and transmission jerk is annoying.

noisy too.

Ktec has one for 4 grand up for sale i think.

 

[Paul Wicks]

The supersprint exhausts look very good, who are the UK distributers?

Any idea how much they are?

The racing ones, there are two typres (whats the difference?) look as though they replace the CAT, wont this cause problems with the oxygen sensors?

 

[BenR]

diff..........rd ones have gay tailpipe trims.......and race ones are fecking noisy, but gorgeous, and hopefully if they could be arsed, it could work better, but hey, who knows until test back to back, its only an exhaust.

 

[Chris_H]

erm no one has mentioned a blue neon! Whats this place coming to?

 

[BenR]

well, we are talking about racing parts!

so, the sooper larger sunstrip is more in keeping, i prefer day glo yellow. on my wing mirrors too.

 

[Chris_H]

nah the sun strip only imporves aerodynamics, the neon gives 50bhp.

 

[BenR]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

is this some secret my tuning friends have been hiding from me!

does it work on a 2 stroker kart too?

 

[Chris_H]

on a 2 stroke you need double up on neons, change the doohicky to absolutely cream cracker mental and add vinegar to the fuel to get the same benifit.

 

[BenR]

oh, cool........ill do that nxt week then

any specific colour neon?

 

[Chris_H]

depends on the tide mate.

 

[BenR]

well, ill be there through low and high tide.

is there a compramise colour?

ill need a bit of torque to go with it too as its naturally peaky.

 

[Chris_H]

you could use a red and blue one I suppose mate, that shoudl be a good alround set up. Should reduce drag to and itf mounted transversly it will provide downforce to.

I think we are taking this mockery to far Ben.

 

[BenR]

can you ever go too far?

 

[Chris_H]

hmm, no I suppose not.

So you need to hook up some form of generator to power these neons, rob a cicuis, they have plenty.

 

[BenR]

hmmm.........cant i add a bicycle dynamo and run it off the tyres?

 

[Chris_H]

extra transmission loss there matey, not good for top end.

 

[BenR]

but ill use WD 40 on the bearings!

 

[Chris_H]

put wd-40 on the tyres to, its a water dispersant so you will get better grip in the wet! Wow that ideas phat!

 

[BenR]

thats a great idea, maybe i can tape a can to one of the chassis tubes, then hook up a button on the steering wheel to add grip fluid during the race!

 

[Chris_H]

we is da best!

 

[BenR]

problem is, we could probably market it well enough to convince max power muppets to purchase it!

 

[Chris_H]

so lets do it then!

What about our foundry idea? I have the parrafin stove full and fairy liquid bottles at the ready!

 

[BenR]

well, where do we nick the waste alluminium from?