Cup or full fat???

Burnley-Kyle · Oct 6, 2021

Hi, just wondering what the differences are between the clio 182's and trying to figure out which one ive got, help would be appreciated 👍

JamesBryan · Oct 6, 2021

Describe what Clio you have, maybe even a picture might help.

Daz... · Oct 6, 2021

On a 182 the heater control panel is the easiest way to know.

If it's got manual controls then it's a Cup.

All other 182s came with digital controls.

R3k1355 · Oct 6, 2021

182 Cup's came with the cheapo interior and no real performance benefit over the normal 182.

Burnley-Kyle · Oct 6, 2021

JamesBryan said:
Describe what Clio you have, maybe even a picture might help.

Air con, cruise control, half leather interior with the digital heater controls

Burnley-Kyle · Oct 6, 2021

Daz... said:
On a 182 the heater control panel is the easiest way to know.

If it's got manual controls then it's a Cup.

All other 182s came with digital controls.

Its got digital heater controls. Whats a full fat version?

JamesBryan · Oct 6, 2021

Burnley-Kyle said:
Air con, cruise control, half leather interior with the digital heater controls

Burnley-Kyle said:
Its got digital heater controls. Whats a full fat version?

Full fat is cup pack suspension and cup spoiler as well.

Ol’ Tarby · Oct 6, 2021

Daz... said:
On a 182 the heater control panel is the easiest way to know.

If it's got manual controls then it's a Cup.

All other 182s came with digital controls.

Digital controls doesn't mean it's a FF though. Just means it's not s cup

Daz... · Oct 6, 2021

Ol’ Tarby! said:
Digital controls doesn't mean it's a FF though. Just means it's not s cup

Correct - That's why I said all other 182s have digital controls.

Ol’ Tarby · Oct 6, 2021

Daz... said:
Correct - That's why I said all other 182s have digital controls.

But he's asking if he has a FF

Daz... · Oct 6, 2021

Ol’ Tarby! said:
But he's asking if he has a FF

He asked if it's cup or FF. I was just letting him know the easiest way to identify a cup.

Ol’ Tarby · Oct 6, 2021

Daz... said:
He asked if it's cup or FF. I was just letting him know the easiest way to identify a cup.

Good point well made ☺️

Tim. · Oct 6, 2021

There are three possible options, although it sounds like you’ve determined it isn’t a 182 Cup.

Normal 182
Normal 182 with both Cup Packs (full fat)
182 Cup

DomP182 · Oct 6, 2021

Tim. said:
There are three possible options, although it sounds like you’ve determined it isn’t a 182 Cup.

Normal 182
Normal 182 with both Cup Packs (full fat)
182 Cup

You're forgetting the green top semi skimmed ie only one cup pack

DomP182 · Oct 6, 2021

What morons would have ordered a non Cup packed 182 from new any way!?

Burnley-Kyle · Oct 6, 2021

So have i got a cup or a ff or a vauxhall vectra?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 sorry guys just curious to know what the differences are thats all

Oggy997 · Oct 6, 2021

Looks like a Vectra from here

DomP182 · Oct 6, 2021

Real answer is measure the shock to hub bolt spacings, 54mm centre to centre - non Cup suspension, 60mm - Cup suspension. If it has a Cup spoiler, and splitter as well (which it probably won't as they often broke off) then it has both Cup packs ie full fat.

Anthracite alloys also came with cup suspension

Travis · Oct 6, 2021

https://cliosport.net/content/guides/Renault%20Sport%20Clio%20Guide.pdf

R3k1355 · Oct 6, 2021

Burnley-Kyle said:
So have i got a cup or a ff or a vauxhall vectra?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 sorry guys just curious to know what the differences are thats all

You'll need to post a few pictures, cos we can't well tell you like this

MRBILLYUK · Oct 6, 2021

Burnley-Kyle said:
So have i got a cup or a ff or a vauxhall vectra?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 sorry guys just curious to know what the differences are thats all

When they were new if it had anthracite 182 wheels it had the cup suspension pack. Slightly lower and stiffer springs.
Of course 16 years later somebody could have fitted anthracite wheels or even had them refurbed in a darker colour so it's not always a given that it has cup suspension. Also there's a good chance the cup pack springs will have snapped by now so it's highly likely its got aftermarket springs, which isn't a bad thing. I've just got to 15 and half years ownership and finally got Grams springs which in my opinion are better than the factory fitted springs.
Also, from new again. If you had the 2nd cup pack option it would have had a front splitter and cup spoiler. The majority of front splitters will be snapped by now and you might have the popular Skoda Fabia rubber splitter.

Ol’ Tarby · Oct 6, 2021

DomP182 said:
What morons would have ordered a non Cup packed 182 from new any way!?

The same type of moron that orders non m sport BMW's with no idrive (E9x)

Mr Squashie · Oct 6, 2021

DomP182 said:
What morons would have ordered a non Cup packed 182 from new any way!?

The idiot who ordered mine apparently 😔

DomP182 · Oct 6, 2021

And if a genuine 182 cup you get to have the worst looking seats not to mention a bench in the back.

riz · Oct 6, 2021

Tim. said:
There are three possible options, although it sounds like you’ve determined it isn’t a 182 Cup.

Normal 182
Normal 182 with both Cup Packs (full fat)
182 Cup

I always thought Full fat was a normal 182 and a Full fat with cup packs was a thing.

MRBILLYUK · Oct 6, 2021

riz said:
I always thought Full fat was a normal 182 and a Full fat with cup packs was a thing.

The term Full Fat really originated with the 172. You either got a lighter Cup or the heavier fully loaded 172 and it was christened Full Fat.

Tim. · Oct 6, 2021

MRBILLYUK said:
The term Full Fat really originated with the 172. You either got a lighter Cup or the heavier fully loaded 172 and it was christened Full Fat.

Is that true? I’ve always thought the term was coined after the 182 was released, then applied back to 172s too.

Ol’ Tarby · Oct 6, 2021

MRBILLYUK said:
The term Full Fat really originated with the 172. You either got a lighter Cup or the heavier fully loaded 172 and it was christened Full Fat.

I'm not sure that's 100% true? I'm 99% sure it came about after the 182

Mr Squashie · Oct 6, 2021

Sell it and buy a Trophy, it's the only way to be sure

MRBILLYUK · Oct 6, 2021

Tim. said:
Is that true? I’ve always thought the term was coined after the 182 was released, then applied back to 172s too.

I'm pretty sure, not 100% though that when I bought my first 172 in 2001, not long after that was when I first saw the term Full Fat. I might be wrong as time fades my memory in my old brain lol.

imprezaworks · Oct 6, 2021

172
172 cup
Awful spec 182
182 cup
182 full fat(cup packed) Lowered, spoiler, wheels. The more popular one.

Today. Get the nicest out of any of the above and be happy.

👍

RustyMojo · Oct 6, 2021

Steve1986 said:
The idiot who ordered mine apparently 😔

And mine!

Louis · Oct 7, 2021

imprezaworks said:
172
172 cup
Awful spec 182
182 cup
182 full fat(cup packed) Lowered, spoiler, wheels. The more popular one.

Today. Get the nicest out of any of the above and be happy.

👍

Dan is right for once

loggyboy · Oct 7, 2021

Tim. said:
Is that true? I’ve always thought the term was coined after the 182 was released, then applied back to 172s too.

Yeah I remember being rebuked as I refered to my 172 as a FF. There is no need to call a 172 FF as there were only 2 options - Cup or Normal, where as with the 182 there were 5 :

182 Cup.
182 0% (no packs)
182 Skimmed (Spoiler pack)
182 Semi Skimmed (Suspension pack)
182 Full Fat (Both cup packs)

(6 if you count the trophy, or even more if you count seat and sat nav options etc)

imprezaworks · Oct 7, 2021

Semi skimmed lol

loggyboy · Oct 7, 2021

Done some digging. and the first reference to Full Fat with regards to spec, is around late 2004 when a member called DK started using the term a few times when discussing the 182 options. Suspect that's the Genesis.

182 Cup Announced for uk.

http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1094026561__normal_clio_rs_team_6.jpghttp://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1094026561__normal_clio_rs_team_6.jpg http://erc.qmuc.ac.uk/cliosport/gallery/full/1094026534__clio_rs_team_8.jpg The items REMOVED from the 182 are: Climate...

cliosport.net

Clio 182 Cup - possible newbie but.....

The question is do I really want one, i need convincing on this matter! Apologies if this is in the wrong section but couldnt find a newbies section or dimwits section so please move mods if in the wrong place!Anyway better say Hi to everyone first, newbie here from Edinburgh, used to own a...

cliosport.net

Earlier in 2003 a member called Potster did mention owning a lardy 'full fat' 172, but I don't believe this was spec related, just using it to refer to his car as the heavier of the 2 172 versions.

who just got a 172

anyone just collected there new 172?? wats ya plans for it??

cliosport.net

Whoever @dk was, take a bow, you coined phrase that's caused a thousand 'is my 182 a FF?' posts.

Ol’ Tarby · Oct 7, 2021

Hold on, so DK invented the full fat?! No wonder he's so fuckin rich!

loggyboy · Oct 7, 2021

Ol’ Tarby! said:
Hold on, so DK invented the full fat?! No wonder he's so fuckin rich!

Seems so, found an earlier reference discussing it before it even became a thing https://cliosport.net/threads/182-cup.73734/

McGherkin · Oct 7, 2021

Ol’ Tarby! said:
Hold on, so DK invented the full fat?!

Oh, the delicious irony.

DomP182 · Oct 7, 2021

Steve1986 said:
Sell it and buy a Trophy, it's the only way to be sure

Louis said:
Dan is right for once

Then there was the 172 Ph1 exclusive (exclusively horrible interior)

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