cup or not

[azza85]

Hi all ive just bought a 2002 clio 172 in black looks like a normal rs no splitters has climate an abs but insurance websites an renault both say its a cup but its black it has no alarm or etched reg on the glass it handles completely different to my old 182 the chassis number starts cb1n also done a check it says built 2000 registered 2002 any help would be much obliged

 

[Matt W]

They made no 172 cups in black.

 

[jamesycc]

172 cups only came in mondial blue and iceberg silver. In the UK anyway. Sounds like a standard 172 with some dodgy admin by insurers and Renault

 

[VR46-G@Z]

Sounds interesting built in 2000, what check told you that? Maybe it's a Renault test mule or something, any pics? Whats the interior like?!

 

[azza85]

Just been on to renault again its an austrian import speced to the owners requirements bloke said its rare ive deleted the aircon binned the foglights an fitted ktec coilovers an gas shocks an speedline maracanas in white prob should of left it standard

 

[azza85]

Sounds interesting built in 2000, what check told you that? Maybe it's a Renault test mule or something, any pics? Whats the interior like?!

total car check .co.uk interior is standard rs trim

 

[coverman]

Is it LHD for Austria? Cups in UK had grey fabric trim; no Cups sold in phase 1 period.Weren't all the LHD Cups called the Jean Ragnotti version, all in Mondial blue?. None sold to Austria to my knowledge.

 

[azza85]

Is it LHD for Austria? Cups in UK had grey fabric trim; no Cups sold in phase 1 period.Weren't all the LHD Cups called the Jean Ragnotti version, all in Mondial blue?. None sold to Austria to my knowledge.

Its rhd an i agree with all your sayin but according to renault an insurers its a cup an if its right about cups chassis num starting with c1bn then its all there its very wierd but i will say in standard guise it handled loads better than my previous 172s an my 182

 

[azza85]

Heres a pic of the chassis num in the corner u can just see the black bonnet

Sounds interesting built in 2000, what check told you that? Maybe it's a Renault test mule or something, any pics? Whats the interior like?!

I think youve hit the nail on the head there about it being a test mule it had only done 19k on its fourth birthday so hardly any use

 

[M.C..]

Get onto Renaultsport forum and send Jeremy or Luke a message and ask them to have a look into it for you.

 

[azza85]

Is that in the members area pal cos ive not paid so some parts of this site are off limits

 

[VR46-G@Z]

It does sound like a pre production model from what you've said, if it would hold any more value because of that would be interesting! Sounds rare from what you've said, it sounds like a full fat 172 that didn't exist....although the spoiler isn't a cup spoiler......hmmm!

 

[TheEvilGiraffe]

@The Boosh! .. any ideas ?

 

[M.C..]

Is that in the members area pal cos ive not paid so some parts of this site are off limits

Luke http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=32314&name=Luke RUK
Jeremy http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=18986&name=Jeremy RUK

 

[azza85]

Strange isnt it the guy at renault did say it may have gone via austria to the geneva motor show just across the border an if it did hold anymore value ive removed any chance of that by modifying it but im not too fussed it owes me pence an i thrash the b****cks off it every morning down the lanes an it makes me smile thats why i bought it

 

[azza85]

Luke http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=32314&name=Luke RUK
Jeremy http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/forum/default.aspx?g=profile&u=18986&name=Jeremy RUK

Cheers pal

 

[VR46-G@Z]

That sounds quite possible, sounds like a full fat 172 minus a cup spoiler!

 

[azza85]

Ive just asked jeremy at renaultsport the question so ill just wait an see i guess i know for certain though it had much better handling than all my previous clios when it was standard

 

[Matt W]

TBH it just sounds like a standard renault c**k up in the registration system.

 

[azza85]

Well its offical just spoke to renault uk they did some digging an it was a demo car in austria cup chassis but with all the trimmings and its black so the only black cup in the uk so if any1 ask what colours come in now you can say blue silver an 1 black one

 

[azza85]

TBH it just sounds like a standard renault c**k up in the registration system.

Nope as per my last post

 

[VR46-G@Z]

That's awesome! All you need now is to reverse all your modifications.....:tongueclosed::up:

 

[coverman]

wow, put it back to original

 

[azza85]

Yep me dad just said the same called me a silly boy too oh well any1 got any cup suspension standard rims aircon pump fogs steering wheel an airbox for sale lol

 

[VR46-G@Z]

Did it come with turini's or sport alloys?!

 

[azza85]

Dunno it had ph1 wheels when i got it its pointless puttin it back to oem its done 116k fsh though

 

[VR46-G@Z]

I wouldn't have thought it's worth going standard either I was just curious to what wheels were standard on it:up:

 

[azza85]

I reckon standard rs rims you wouldnt bin turinis off would ya but then i find 15 rims give a much better ride

 

[The Boosh!]

Rare. There's a LY MK3 Cup as well, which was a pre build car.

Nice find.

 

[Chris_Beer]

Cup didn't have ABS
Cup spoiler?
Cup front splitter?
Turini's?
What headlights are fitted/washer blanks
Cloth seats/door cards?
Black thinner type carpets?
4 x Seat belts, not 5?
Air con was an option but it was non digital
What about traction control?
Same goes for auto lights/wipers/engine cover and some gearboxes too. The Trims on blue ones were colour coded?
Suspension/driveshafts/hub set up differs

 

[azza85]

Cup didn't have ABS
Cup spoiler?
Cup front splitter?
Turini's?
What headlights are fitted/washer blanks
Cloth seats/door cards?
Black thinner type carpets?
4 x Seat belts, not 5?
Air con was an option but it was non digital
What about traction control?
Same goes for auto lights/wipers/engine cover and some gearboxes too. The Trims on blue ones were colour coded?
Suspension/driveshafts/hub set up differs

Mine is a standard rs with all the trimmings digi climate half leather no spoilers or splitters but has cup suspension an chassis im told they do this so you get the feel for both types of car this is common practice for car manufacturers there is probably many out there but most people put things like this down to poor admin but i enquired an behold the only black cup in the country or the only one ren uk know about

 

[azza85]

Rare. There's a LY MK3 Cup as well, which was a pre build car.

Nice find.

Thank you

 

[Chris_Beer]

Standard 172's have the trimmings you mention. Trimmings are usually Splitter and Spoiler then Suspension and Wheel colour for the 182 cup packs referring to 'full fat' and then there's the optional sat nav/cruise control/recaros etc

Please explain what the Cup chassis is your referring too

 

[azza85]

Standard 172's have the trimmings you mention. Trimmings are usually Splitter and Spoiler then Suspension and Wheel colour for the 182 cup packs referring to 'full fat' and then there's the optional sat nav/cruise control/recaros etc

Please explain what the Cup chassis is your referring too

Just a normal rs spec standard car theres a pic of it on this thread and of the chassis number alls it has different is the cup chassis an suspension hope this helps

 

[azza85]

Standard 172's have the trimmings you mention. Trimmings are usually Splitter and Spoiler then Suspension and Wheel colour for the 182 cup packs referring to 'full fat' and then there's the optional sat nav/cruise control/recaros etc

Please explain what the Cup chassis is your referring too

Oh sorry the cup chassis refers to the wider track it has on the standard car the suspension is irrelevant as the oem stuff is long gone hope this answers your question