I think as long as we keep to the basic points theyre interesting debates. Its understable that some of us will get defensive about our own cars, luckily i own neither cup/172 or cooper s but have driven all the before mentioned so my opinion is therefore right. lol!
At the end of the day were all different, and we give different aspects of driving different priorties. In my case i am a bit of a girls blouse so id take a normal 172 for its safety devices and aircon, i dont need loads and loads of performance as i can get plenty of thrills out of the car as it is thanks.