Detailing Chat & Questions Thread

[Jack-C]

Using the towel damp will cure the problem. I know it sounds strange but a dry drying towel doesn't pick up the water as effectively as a damp towel.

 

[GCC]

What's good for bringing a shine to satin paintwork??

 

[Connor19]

What use does a buffer have in the detailing process? Have a cheap one from lidl from a few years ago in the garage, it is battery powered so not very fast. Is there any use for this i.e. buffing and when to buff?

 

[Adamm.]

Been a while since I popped in this thread. So the car hasn't been cleaned since start of december, record for me that lol. Anyway i'm just wondering will rds remove the 6 months of bonded dirt. It was sealed very well and is still beading in some parts. Obviously I'm not gunna go rubbing a mf over it after but will it get most the dirt off if I say go to a petrol station coat it in a 1l bottle of rds then pressure wash off after a soak?

 

[welsh.Z.S.]

Anyone interested in pure guard paint sealant?

 

[gex23]

Used white vinegar and nothing else when washing the drying towel and other MFs today - will see if this works, though i'm buying a 'Purple monster' edgeless drying towel swell anyway.

Also ordered a 5L coconut scented container and 1L cola scented container of CarChem shampoo via DW group buy today .

Also need a few days off to apply the Gtechniq products to the hood!

 

[Amos91]

Just looking at ordering some Menz polished but unforunately CYC are out of stock of Po203s. I am planning on buying this elsewhere but on some sites its shown as PF2400, on others PF2500.

Is there a difference between the two?

 

[Paul.M]

Hi chaps

Well today my trusty DAS6 decided to give up after about 6 years of use, I'm going to look into fixing it but thought I would use this as an excuse to treat myself to a new machine, so what are people reccomending these days DA wise?

I think I may buy a rotary aswell so I can go between the two, is a silverline good enough (I like the price) or is something like the spin doctor worth the extra money?

Thanks in advance

 

[bigup7]

Depends on budget

Flex XC 3401 VRG gets great user reviews over on DW and cheapest here: http://www.autobritedirect.co.uk/in...3401-vrg-positive-drive-orbital-polisher.html

when my das6 dies i shall be buying one of these for sure!

or rotary version, Flex PE 14-2 150 Rotary - http://www.autobritedirect.co.uk/in...ng-kits/flex-pe-14-2-150-rotary-polisher.html

 

[MarkCup]

Some simple general advice required here chaps...

A dying Nilfisk has driven me back to Karcher and I picked up their K4 compact + 'lance' as well. Is what it does what I should expect or should it dwell longer?

If it should be thicker, is it the lance at fault or cheap ass foam I'm using?

 

[Yellow Dave]

Your lance is not a proper snow foam lance, but the detergent bottle from karcher. Get a proper lance and it should be fine. I'm surprised you managed to get it that thick to start with

 

[Paul.M]

Depends on budget

Flex XC 3401 VRG gets great user reviews over on DW and cheapest here: http://www.autobritedirect.co.uk/in...3401-vrg-positive-drive-orbital-polisher.html

when my das6 dies i shall be buying one of these for sure!

or rotary version, Flex PE 14-2 150 Rotary - http://www.autobritedirect.co.uk/in...ng-kits/flex-pe-14-2-150-rotary-polisher.html

Thanks for the help

I don't have a budget as such (within reason) I'm happy to buy the one that represents the best value to performance.

Whilst the two you linked look good spec wise are they are they really worth two/three times the price as say the spin doctor?

 

[Gally]

Flex is the ultimate DA barring maybe Festool. Personally i'd buy a Das6 pro if you're just a hobbyist. Great machine. I simply love mine these days.

Rotary wise the 3M machine is a really great all rounder, weight wise especially. Or an Ep801 for a beginner.

I think for the hobbyist the DA offers way more versatility. Cleansing, waxing, glazing and polishing.

 

[MarkCup]

Your lance is not a proper snow foam lance, but the detergent bottle from karcher. Get a proper lance and it should be fine. I'm surprised you managed to get it that thick to start with

How do they differ? Does a proper snow-foam lance work differently? I thought it was just about the bottle foaming up and it being drawn out with the passing pressurised water...hence me thinking a better snow-foam might thicken it up some.

 

[Paul.M]

Thank you for the advice gally

When looking around on DW last night it seemed the das6 pro was well recomended, especially with the £99 group buy on there, I'm a bit out of the loop now with polishers my das6 hasn't put a foot wrong in 6 years! I'm hoping I can repair it and keep it as a spare.

 

[Yellow Dave]

If you stick with a DA, for the price I couldn't justify anything more expensive than the pro version.

With rotray, the 3m is considerably nicer to use over the EP801, but it shows up my poor technique more!

 

[Gally]

How do they differ? Does a proper snow-foam lance work differently? I thought it was just about the bottle foaming up and it being drawn out with the passing pressurised water...hence me thinking a better snow-foam might thicken it up some.

Entirely different mate. Get from the carpro site with the discount code, they are one of the cheapest on the net.

You'll notice a proper difference straight away.

Thank you for the advice gally

When looking around on DW last night it seemed the das6 pro was well recomended, especially with the £99 group buy on there, I'm a bit out of the loop now with polishers my das6 hasn't put a foot wrong in 6 years! I'm hoping I can repair it and keep it as a spare.

Indeed mate, even repair and sell on to recoup some cash. 2ND hand DAs hold their money okay.

 

[C.J]

I had a go at removing the birds**t etching I had on my bumper yesterday.

Before I attempted my car I tested it on my wife's car (I'd rather mess up her paint work ). I removed a few scratches easily.

Before

After

Before

After

Before

After

Overall I'm really happy with the results. It's the first time I've ever attempted this, so was obviously a little worried.

The wife's Renault was extremely easy in comparison to my BMW.

 

[Gally]

What did you use CJ?

 

[Paul.M]

If you stick with a DA, for the price I couldn't justify anything more expensive than the pro version.

With rotray, the 3m is considerably nicer to use over the EP801, but it shows up my poor technique more!

It looks like that's that settled then, I'll get the pro ordered, many thanks for your input

While I'm here what do people think to the poorboys SSR compounds? I'm a big fan of their stuff and wondered if it was worth trying them.

I'm trying to mix things up a bit and try some new products.

 

[Jack-C]

Menzerna polishes and hex pads is what I use. Works really well and I'd defiantly recommend menz polishes.

 

[Scrooge]

Menzerna polishes and hex pads is what I use. Works really well and I'd defiantly recommend menz polishes.

This, although I used Crapro's reflect and fixer with hex pads recently and quite rate that combo too.

 

[gex23]

Which Menz polish / CG pads would you guys say for BMW paint? Not much in the way of swirls and RDS - but lots of holograms present. Used these brands before on Renault paint, but thought BMW paint was harder....

Will be using the DAS Pro.

 

[Amos91]

This, although I used Crapro's reflect and fixer with hex pads recently and quite rate that combo too.

Scrooge Do you have any idea what the difference is between these two Menz polishes? Even though they are both po203s?

i4Detailing - PF2400

CYC - PF2500

 

[Scrooge]

I have both and very little from what I can tell mate

 

[C.J]

What did you use CJ?

I used Megs Compound by hand.

Took some time, but I was doing a layer then rubbing off to see, then reapplying. Probably did 4 layers each.

 

[Paul.M]

Menzerna polishes and hex pads is what I use. Works really well and I'd defiantly recommend menz polishes.

This is what I use at present, it hasn't let me down yet I just wondered if they were worth trying.

Cheers
gally I've just placed an order for a das6 pro and some new pads, I'll leave the rotary for now I think.

 

[Amos91]

I have both and very little from what I can tell mate

Thanks chap. I'll just get whichever is in stock for cheapest.

 

[scotty10]

has anyone used black holes show glaze, what is your opinion of it?

 

[Mendizmo]

Just wondering if the usual decon process is enough to strip 3 & a bit month old protection off so I can put down fresh layers. I have iron x, tardis & clay (plus snow foam 2bm etc). Will I need to add daisy or an APC in the mix somewhere? Cheers

 

[Jack-C]

Yes the Decon process will strip any old protection

 

[Connor19]

Does this plan sound okay?

-wash down the car
-tar spot removal
-clay bar
-polish
-layer of wax

Should the wax be a sufficient sealant? Don't need some soonax bsd on top of the wax do I?

 

[Knuckles]

Does this plan sound okay?

-wash down the car
-tar spot removal
-clay bar
-polish
-layer of wax

Should the wax be a sufficient sealant? Don't need some soonax bsd on top of the wax do I?

Use an iron remover in between tar remover and claying, it'll speed up the process and make your clay last longer.

And wax is sufficient as a last stage protection. Bsd is a quick detailer used to top up the LSP in between applications.

 

[Connor19]

Use an iron remover in between tar remover and claying, it'll speed up the process and make your clay last longer.

Okay, is AF Iron out okay to spray all over the car I presume?

 

[Jack-C]

Connor, yeah a wax is plenty good enough on it's own. If in a few weeks or months you notice the beading dropping off slightly just add a layer of bsd or you can just use bsd whenever you fancy.

Yes iron out is a good choice. Spray all over the car and wheels. Wait a few minutes for it to turn purple and then rinse it off.

 

[Knuckles]

Okay, is AF Iron out okay to spray all over the car I presume?

I've never used it but I imagine so. Iron x is safe to use on a car so I can't imagine an AF product will be unsuitable.

 

[Connor19]

Brilliant thanks for the help guys much appreciated, was getting a little confused with the sealing process.

 

[Jack-C]

No worries mate

 

[Mendizmo]

Yeah nice one cheers Jack!

 

[aucky]

Okay, is AF Iron out okay to spray all over the car I presume?

Yes. Don't let it dry though.

If you're stripping previous protection you can lace your snow foam with APC to give it more bite